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Aug 30, 2006 3:14:44 PM cite

Why is there no peace in Middle East yet?

by Moise Marabout

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Sep 16, 2006 1:00:57 AM cite

Peace will come to the Middle East when there become a clear understanding of what and/or more importantly whose agenda is at work there. What there needs to be is enough people on the ground to speak in a clear and loud voice the first two lessons one learns as a very young child, the first is ?Stop? and the second is ?No? [It could be an agenda for a whole big meeting about which order they should be in, remember the Vietnam Peace talks]. It sounds simplistic to equate the trouble in the Middle East to a school yard brawl, however the only real difference is that to many people get killed. To suggest that both sides need to grow up, is not a moot point, it needs to happen in conficts the world over, but this question was asked about the Middle East.

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Sep 10, 2006 8:37:00 AM cite

I would consider two root cause for ME violence and unrest: (1) Religious roots: ME is a crossroad to all major (divine) religious bodies: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All sacred sources of these religions has prophecies concerning this region. All see this region as a place of future wars and turmoil. The concept of Christ and anti-Christ is there in all these major religious bodies. This is why every one wants a hold of that region. (2) Materialistic roots: ME is both geographically, and materialistically a golden place. It is in the Middle of the World, it has moderate climate all over the year, it has lots of Oil and minerals, it is rich in water sources, etc. All these qualities of ME would cause the saliva of any hungry super-power to pour continuously from mouth.
Today US is in the ME for both of these reasons: The neo-conservatives with the evangelics wants to go there to face Armageddon, and also, they want the Oil and riches of the ME.

by sharaf

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Sep 10, 2006 1:53:35 AM cite

Two reasons: 1) As a society, Israel is still in deep denial over the violence that allowed the very founding of the country to occur. Israelis are beginning to come to grips with the occupation, but the real issue is 1948. 2) The US (a society that is also in denial about its founding violence) continues to enable Israel's denial financially, diplomatically, and militarily. A change in attitude in these two settler-colonial societies could make a huge difference.

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Sep 10, 2006 1:46:19 AM cite

the palistines and thier cohorts the Arabs, don't want it. fir if there were peace in that region then those regimes would have to answer for thier own way they treated the palistinians. Until the "EVIL JOOS" are gone they will be the fall guiy for all that is bad in the middle east.

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Sep 9, 2006 3:43:33 PM cite

because the USA externalize their internal great divide. why this is so, i don't know.

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I am not a politician, but I think there is actually nothing new in the world, and politicians and interested circles act according to a principle “share and reign”. There would be no peace in the Middle East till some interested groups of people like businessmen and politicians wouldn’t be stopped, who share power and treasures of the earth and use labour and energetic potential of people. If someone does not stop them, they will continue to achieve what they want. Those people act only to pursue their own interests. They do not see, or they actually don’t care about the problems, about which worries a great mass of all people in the Middle East. Here, at the “round table” I saw two men from two different enemy countries Lebanon and Iraq; they shook hands and meant “we have nothing against each other”. Yet thousand of deaths, thousands of victims on both sides give an argument for a new escalation. And I think it is time to break, because someone should stop this insanity. We can only hope that the mental and moral potential of the mankind could do it. It is possible to stop it only if we put all our voices together.

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Abbas Beydoun: I come from the Middle East and I thought many times of this question, so I am afraid of giving a simple answer to a very complex question. I think that countries in the Middle East do not trust each other enough to be persuaded of peace and they want peace in a form so that they are away from each other, so peace in the Middle East was not real. I believe that these countries should really believe in peace and Israel has to do that particularly because it alleges that it is democratic, but actually this state handles the others as uncivilized people and as they deserve death and it deals with them barbarically. I think that the west deals with Israel as a democratic state, so the west should require from it to behave democratically.

by Abbas Beydoun

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Alvaro Restrepo: There is no peace in Middle East yet because there are no intentions to recognize the right of others to exist. I think that the Jewish people, who has suffered so much, has no right to do what it is doing with Palestinians. Precisely because of its history, Jewish people have the moral and historical responsability of finding the right way to Justice. We can't accept any longer what is happening to Palestinians there. The United States support this infamious process because of the big economic power that Jewish people has in that country. We must accept all these people's right to exist, to coexist, to share a territory, to share those historical places which belong to all of them. The only possible way to peace is reconciliation. Nevertheless Jewish have built a wall, a wall which is only going to cause more wars, more violence and more hate.

by Alvaro Restrepo

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Ana Lucy Bengochea:

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Andries Botha: They are all as dangerous as each other, because they are at the behest of unstable humans. What is interesting to me is the assumption that somebody has been given the power to decide whether or not a optimum instrument of destruction can be released. I find it more interesting for us to decide why it was necessary at all for there to be any nuclear bombs. Why is it that we – why do we feel it necessary as part of our so-called civilization to have such optimum and extreme weapon of destruction at our disposal, whether you are American, Israeli, French, or Iranian, whoever. It seems to me that the nuclear bomb is the ultimate weapon or instrument of persuasion. Once you have it, the threat of it makes people take you seriously, so then you say, now I require this or I require that, if you have the nuclear bomb, the threat of our unstable humanity releasing this weapon of destruction, forces people to take your requests, or your threats, or your promises, far more seriously. But I do think it’s a terrible indictment that we should have them at all.

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Angaangaq Lyberth: Moishe, did you know that where all the great religions stemmed from? As a native person they tells us that when you make a commitment to the Great One you will be tested, he will send you tests. And lo and behold the very land in which the great teachings of these books of the man who made us, in English we call them prophets, have given us has caused us to have incredible difficulties in the very birthplaces of those teachings. Moses, Christ and Mohammed come from that region. Zoroaster, Abraham-- Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster, Christ and Mohammed come from that region and those people are still fighting about the very beautiful teachings of those spokesmen, the prophets who gives the teachings to uphold for the safety of mankind and here we are fighting about it. Why don’t we have peace there yet? We’re still trying to translate things to all benefit, to put down others. What right do we have to put down such beautiful teachings like Moses, like Zoroaster, like Christ, like Mohammed, like [inaudible]? We have no right to do so. If we take on the teachings we will realize that it’s progressive. All of them are progressive. Remember when Abraham came nobody could read or write. When Moses came we was just learning to understand the significance of writing. When Christ came we were in there. When Mohammed came we were able to read more. With [inaudible] coming now we all can read and write. Everyone has a right to seek and to understand the truth. When everyone does, they will realize that with a progressive revelations we have nothing to worry, but to advance to a betterment of the world so we can come to a new level of reality within. Moishe I hope that I’ve been able to answer your question.

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Sep 9, 2006 12:10:00 PM cite

Anthony Arnove: Well, I think the question of why there is no peace in the Middle East is a complicated one, but fundamental to answering the question is the question of what is called a peace process and the assumption that the United States, the European Union and other countries are pursuing a process of trying to resolve a conflict and that it is often basically attributed to Palestinian or Arab intransigence and maximalism that that process hasn’t achieved its aim. The United States often refers to itself as an honest broker in the Middle East, but nothing can be further from the truth. Naseer Aruri has written a book called “Dishonest Broker” that shows the real history of the United States for all in actually systematically blocking the underlying issues that create conflict and tension in the Middle East. And really, if you want to understand the roots of the conflict in the Middle East, we have to understand why -- the way in which Israel was created as a colonial settler state and the massive disposition of more than 700,000 Palestinians, why that fundamental injustice has led to a situation that has led to such instability in the Middle East and in the world today, a situation that really threatens to engulf far beyond the Middle East regions in a more and potentially even nuclear war. And so, there is a fundamental inequality there, but there is also a greater inequality and problem which is that the United States has seen the Middle East as a region of concern for the same reason that before it was an object of colonial concern because of its geography in terms of its location, for the proximity to very important trade and shipping routes. But, increasingly, it is importance as a source of energy, the location of two-thirds of world’s oil, but also the great majority of the world’s natural gas reserves. So, it is an area of tremendous conflict because those resources are a value to the United States, a value to other states, and the people who live in those countries have been dispossessed and have been subjected to dictatorship, to oppression and tremendous violence by states that seek to control those resources and by their indigenous allies, the elites of Arab world and also by the state of Israel. So, the United States has backed dictatorships, backed oppressive regimes that will give it access to those resources and suppress movements for democratic change, suppress nationalist movements, which creates the kind of anger, which creates kind of frustration, which creates the kind of social circumstances that lead to instability today. But, really, ultimately, resolution of political conflicts could be possible.

by Anthony Arnove

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