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Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: If people do not change their mind, their consciousness, it can lead to a catastrophe. There’s nothing after this, you know. I think that after this there would be nothing, if people do not change their ways of thinking and ethical values, because capitalism already had its best times and now naturally declines as everything ever born has to die, like every structure. It has got ugly forms with time and is completely deformed, because people following this system hoped to gain a lot of the experience, to get more free time for personal growing for everyone. It caused the contrary effect: much more exploitation, robbery, and a much stronger deformation of everything. And people will be forced to find another structure. Besides I am convinced that the most important thing is to change ourselves. Because when you search for some information in computer, there is experience and knowledge of a great deal of generations. And yet it’s a yesterday’s information. We should come to a new knowledge. |
Abbas Beydoun: I do not know... I think after capitalism will be capitalism too. I guess that capitalism as a classifying system will not fall. Capitalism creates other kinds of capitalism which are more progressive, so I can not imagine that we can live now without capitalism. |
Alvaro Restrepo: I think capitalism in a way has been a perpetuation of Darwin's survival of the strongest, of the fit. I think that humanity has to find a synthesis between the values of solidarity and justice that were in the utopia of socialism and find in the values of competitive democratic societies the sense of freedom. But we cannot sacrifice a freedom in order to have solidarity, the same as we cannot sacrifice solidarity in order to defend freedom or free competition. I think if we do not find a balance between this two ways of functioning in the world there will not be anything after capitalism. So I insist the values of solidarity cannot be sacrificed in order to have freedom, because, otherwise, freedom is that's not authentic freedom, the one that is preached by capitalist systems in, if we do not have a society that is based on the principles of solidarity. |
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Andries Botha: I suppose, after oxygen there will be dioxide; after capitalism there will be human beings. Capitalism is only one system. I believe that we need to move towards a new kind of human responsibility, sort of human ethic towards how we consider our future economic systems. I don't believe we have the answer right now, and I also don't believe that a simplistic critique of capitalism is going to be the answer. I believe that we need to -- I really do believe we need to consider that not all people can survive optimumly within the ethic of the survival of the fittest, the fittest being the most predatory, the most virile. There needs to be a manner, there needs to a system where we can all participate with a certain degree of security within an economic system that doesn't simply depend on our ability to be the best. We as human beings need to feel that we have a place of security. The human body is frail and kind of always be virile, fit. Statistics would reveal that the world is diseased and incapable, and I think a lot of that is depend -- is a measure, is a measure of our inability to cope with the systems that have been presented to us as normative. |
Angaangaq Lyberth: Were, I’m sure that if Mankind knew what is after Capitalism they would have arrived there already now. But nobody seems to understand either what Capitalist means. Remember that everyone was fighting about the Democracy and Capitalism and Communism? Both are wrong, as you know today. We all know that now. That Communism was wrong, so is Capitalism. It’s not working either, just like the Communism is not. So what will come after that? I believe that the equality of everyone will come about to all of us. That no matter where we are that we’ll be able to use the same monetary system and have the freedom to move about, to have a visit for you and your family as you will be able to come and visit me and my family on the top of the world. And that’s what will come after the Capitalism the way we know it today. Let’s you and I we agree that it is not working. As it hasn’t worked with other things like the Communism. I do look forward to the day when I can come and visit you and you can come and visit me without having to worry about what is in your pocket. If it is Euro versus Krone or versus Dollars. |
Anthony Arnove: Well, the question has no guaranteed answer because what’s after capitalism depends on how capitalism is replaced. The worst case scenario of course is that there is no after capitalism. Capitalism is going to lead to the destruction of the environment or capitalism is going to lead as a result of its economic conflict to the kind of political and military conflict that creates nuclear war and the destruction of the human race, so that there will literally be no after capitalism. The capitalism will prove to have been the economic system that led to the demise of humanity, and with it other species on the planet as well. But, another possibility is that capitalism will be replaced by an alternative economic system, not of a more liberatory variety, but of a more repressive variety, a variety which really we've seen generated by capitalism. The great socialist Frederick Engels spoke about a choice between socialism and barbarism. Rosa Luxemburg echoed that statement eloquently. We do face a choice between socialism or barbarism, between replacing capitalism with a humane economic system and democratic economic system. Or other possibility that we will see is the rise of the kind of fascism that capitalism has produced when it goes into crisis, the kind of fascism that we saw in the 1930s in Germany, in Italy, and Spain, and the massive destruction that brought about. So, really the question is up to us. |
Anuradha Koirala: After Capitalism -- I think after capitalism it is -- you have to think about others, and reduce poverty. That is going to be the scenario after capitalism. That is after capitalism you have to think about others. |
Anuradha Mittal: I think in terms of capitalism and what comes after it, I think the answer lies within each one of us and what we are willing to do for it. I would just say that it is inherently unsustainable system, capitalism; and it’s a matter of time before it goes. And the real challenge is, as you say, what comes after that and that is really up to each one of us. What is our vision that drives that? I know the social movements have declared that a better world is possible, and I would say it would basically be after capitalism, the possibility of many worlds within a world, possibility of different models of economic organization, but economic organization which is rooted in our local economies, which is rooted in -- not in some trade agreements, but really in our Universal Declaration of Human Rights. An economic system which sees not nature as something to be exploited, but sees nature to work in harmony with. And, so coming back to what’s after capitalism? I see after capitalism, because of the rising social movements and aspirations of people, a world where we can have equity, a world where we can actually talk about and have a dialog instead -- and diplomacy instead of bombardment and killing of innocent people and children. It’s a world – well, I guess I could continue dreaming and share what these dreams are but that is basically it depends on each one of us what our dreams are and if you are willing to fulfill them because that’s what is going to come after capitalism. |
Ashok Gangadean: Again, I think this question quite terse and excellent, brings out for us on what we mean by capitalism. Obviously in terms of the normal standards of that word it has to do with the dominance of egocentric culture and contrast to an integral awakened human, a culture of interconnectivity that is grounded in the primal reality of the collective wisdom that humanity has seen that we are profoundly interconnected in the field of reality whether we recognize it or not. So, ego-based cultures and ego-based capitalism really -- capitalism comes from that egocentric, ego-based culture. And, I think this question is inviting us to think, after ego-capitalism what comes next and I think that's the profound crisis and opportunity and trauma we are facing on the planet as we shift from an oldest functional egocentric capitalistic form of culture. And, you can say communists as well, ego-communism, ego-capitalism, ideologies that come from egocentric, egomental mind is really what's an issue. And the question what comes after that kind of culture, and that's the wonderful news on the planet now, is that I believe that we have no choice as humans but to mature now, and mature into the wisdom of our interconnectivity and our sharing and our compassion, the culture of care of becoming full dialogic human beings where we see ourselves in the other. And imagine what will be the culture of that awakened consciousness? What would be the economic process beyond capitalism? It could be a new kind of capitalism, a humane capitalism. So, we don't have to throw the word capitalism out, but just become keenly aware of what is the consciousness and mentality behind those economic systems. And just fair humane economic system by any name is going to be what comes next to be hold, and I think that what’s going to happen on the planet. |
Audrey Kitagawa: What we really need to look at is the free market itself and see how we can really bring in the whole aspect of ethics and principles that will ultimately seek to regulate and bring about more social justice, economic justice, to the people around the world. So we really need to talk about economic systems that are ethically based, that will address issues of human rights, human justice, and to recognize the rights of people to be able to have access to food, to water, to shelter and not live in abject poverty while a few people live in extreme wealth. So what we really ultimately talking about is a way of moderating our behavior in the market, in the way we live our daily lives, so that we can have a world where this economic disparity is not so huge and where everyone can live life with dignity. |
Benjamin Fahrer: What is after capitalism? It’s a return to more sustainable system, or more sustainable and localized system. We are in a stage of evolution. Capitalism is a model that is not sustainable. Anything that is not sustainable has a lifetime and we just so happy to be at the end of the capitalistic life. So what is next? We shall see. We, as people, we don’t know what are necessary evolving into? If we limit the design, we’ll be stuck to those limitations. Therefore, we need to really experiment in what kind of economic systems, ecological systems we want to promote and economic systems that we wish to create. We continue to this experimentation then we shall see what will come. And some mistakes might be blessings. The cause and effects, in some cases are irreversible, and we cannot change the past. Yet we have the opportunity to shape the future that can make mistakes of the past seem like these blessings. We will evolve in some way and our economic system has a potential to evolve into something much more than we can ever imagine. In the absence of what is sacred, we have paid to huge price. We need to take responsibility for that, yet also move on in work towards or more holistic system. |
Benson Venegas: Can we imagine a world without capitalism? Can we live without capitalism? I consider that yes. And the futur of what is after capitalism is basically the market of values will be go beyond financial values, and there's gonna be a shift of this paradigm of capitalism. Because we need values. We have people hungry for a change in their life, and values are important. Values are gonna be more important in the futur than financial values as though it is right now. So, the market of values in the futur is going to be one of the most important things. Where we're gonna value more what - [the things] around solidarity, cooperation, for instance, justice, and not necessarily because it is a cheaper product. It's because it has all these values that make a difference. So society is going in a slow pattern of change. I think capitalism over that process, which there would be a shift of this paradigm, and would have a more economic situation that is more based on values and not necessarily economic or financial values. |
Beverly Schwartz: After capitalism -- I think with capitalism first we have to have a values-based capitalism. We have to look at how people behave and should behave towards each other within a capitalist system. So with and after along with capitalism is values. And we must be very insistent that along with capitalism as a system, we insert values, because only through inserting values will we have new ways of making money, of sharing money, of sharing wealth, both material wealth, spiritual wealth, intellectual wealth, emotional wealth. These are all different pieces that we have to think of and insert in capitalism. So I think as we develop into hopefully a more aware society, a more connected globe, we will have a values-based economic system; be it capitalism, be it any other system. But I think everything depends on our values; the way we insert our values, the way we interpret our values, the way we use our values. And in that way, after capitalism, before capitalism, with capitalism, comes a values-based economic system. I'm not sure what that looks like, what that would be called, but certainly it is the next step for us. |
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Bill Joy: Capitalism is a system that’s more effectively than any other system in history harnessed people’s desire to make things better by it’s economic structure. But we can ask ourselves and I think in this century what happens if we achieve so much innovation and productivity using the nanoscale technologies and other new technologies such that everybody can meet their basic needs? Will be bored then? Where will get—if everybody has enough money and basic needs and can spend time and relax and enjoy and can create artistic things, people don’t need to spend so much time working, would that be our utopia? It’s possible with automation in this century this might happen. If so then a system which emphasizes production, growth, change, economic conflict between organizations in the marketplace may not be one that’s organized against the things that matter most to us because this kind of economic progress, this kind of competitive environment has a lot of working way too hard. So we can imagine that a new system might emerge based on the fact that everybody has their basic needs met, everybody can be educated and such a system would be perhaps more socialist to some, that everybody has what they need, but we might call it creative, the creativism, an era where everyone can be individually creative and the world is great new individual expression. It will be a wonderful place and I hope I live to see it. by Bill Joy |
Bora Cosic: I don’t believe as in Marxism that capitalism is a particular period in the history, nor that’s clear that after slavery comes feudalism, after it capitalism, after it famous blooming period in the humanity that is socialism and after it communism. This kind of understanding is too patterned. I believe that capitalism is a very effective system in (goods-money) and production relations. It is intelligent to keep some of its elements in the future systems. However I don’t know what kind of system will be ruling in next 100, 200 or more years, but I do believe that something of this economically effective system will maintain. by Bora Cosic |
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