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Fernando Solanas: After capitalism there will be a society showing solidarity; after capitalism necessarily there has to be a society which aims at a society []equality and justice. There will be a society with solidarity, where goods and the things our societies produce are not [] but they are there to satisfy the basic needs for development of life, the basic needs of food, alimentation, health, education, well-being and scientific-technical knowledge. That means a society….. eliminating [](when I say “individual” I mean big companies, big societies which have []individual) When you eliminate all this many things will come to an end, like structures of power. When you eliminate [] gets eliminated automatically: military structures, war industries and the big apparatus of security. That means, all these things would constitute a big wealth. which would incline towards the development of culture in order to prevent catastrophes, which (like those of the global warming of the earth) produce an announced catastrophe. Today we may be seing the highest peak of the occidental capitalist society’s irrationality. |
Fred Matser: Well, in essence, I honestly have to say, I have no idea. We see indeed, we live in a world of chaos and it is possible that if we don't understand that we live together on one planet, and that we have to join our forces, and work together to equally develop that indeed nature might get back to us. We already see on the human level that has a lot of violence. We see also many natural disasters happen. We see the phenomena of global warming emerging more and more. So, it might be and that after capitalism, we really might hit the bottom and have all of us, also in the West, go through a lot of suffering and perhaps it's through that pain that we come to learn about being together and being here to learn about love. And I, of course, hope that we don't need to come into that situation, but I think it's of the utmost importance that we realize such and help one another to realize it because otherwise it might be too late. by Fred Matser |
Galsan Tschinag: Capitalism, as we see and know it, can't be the final solution. And I just can't foresee what social system will come after capitalism. But I fear it will not have learnt anything neither from capitalism nor from communism because I realized that human beings in this respect aren't able to learn anything. So it will probably keep the disadvantages of both and it will be once again a social system that will be condemned to fail and that will have to be replaced. |
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Gladman Chibememe: After capitalism, I think there will be nothing. Capitalism is a seed, is a system, which promotes injustice, greedy, and inequality. And in most cases, if capitalism prospers and becomes, so it flourishes, it means that the social values that make humanity a social human being or a social entity will fade. And in that case, humanity will also fade or humanism will also fade with the coming in of capitalism. So in this case, after capitalism, we are looking at a situation in which maybe we don’t have humanity, because it would have destroyed human beings. As in the sense of being true human beings, we have got the passion to be a united entity, passion to do justice, passion to ensure that there is equity among the people. So, capitalism in itself tries to undermine the critical values of equity, justice, and fairness. And, that would actually result in no society at all, because a society is built on the fundamental principles of justice: equity and fairness. |
Govindaswamy Hariramamurthi: The new capitalism, the newer capitalism, some 'ism'. But it is how the humankind wants to evolve in a manner that it wishes to see. It wishes to look at things of redistributing this capital that is concentrated in few pockets. If it is able to understand that you need to exist as I need to exist. It is often to create a mechanism where poverty is addressed in a manner that it provides ever growing opportunities for everyone to lead a life of dignity. |
Hans-Peter Dürr: I don't know what will come after capitalism. In any case it is good to talk about what will come after, because with the current neo-liberal capitalism people are destroying their natural basis for living. The most important point will be that a form of organization develops which scrutinizes what value added really means. This is not what we consider as value added in economy today. This is not really value added because it simply exploits natural resources. Digging out what is in the soil, resources, which are there, especially energy resources, which they use but which are not endlessly available. Real value added is different. It is a method to recognize the real values, which are freely available and on earth there is only solar energy available to us for daily living. It needs the intelligence of human beings to use this energy to promote further development of life into a higher form. Only human beings can do this, no machine can do it. And even human beings cannot do it, they need cooperation with plants and animals. Only plants can collect solar energy themselves, which comes via a detour to us as food and by this makes us creative and able to add value. We have to cope with this transition or we will have no capacities and abilities to live on in the future. Otherwise we will simply be an episode in the development of the world, which lasted only four million years. |
Harry Wu: It seems that capitalism is ruling the country, is that true? I think we have to rethink on that in many countries to under un-capitalized systems, that take a long time to go. We don’t know yet. by Harry Wu |
Helena Norberg-Hodge: As far as I am concerned, what is after capitalism is also what is after socialism and communism. The ‘isms’ that we have had in the modern era have all entailed a centralization of power and the centralization of power has been in terms of energy production as well as political power. We need now localism as an ‘ism’ that will end all ‘isms’ because localism or localization is about allowing communities to have more control and power over their lives. It is about decentralizing economic activity to allow a flourishing of many, many millions of businesses instead of ever fewer. Why should only one company make shoes for the world? Why should one company like Coca-Cola provide drinks for the world? Can we not envision a world in which most communities, most nations produce their own drinks and their own shoes? Can we not understand that growing potatoes and wheat, producing milk, producing the basic food stuffs and the basic building materials is something that should happen in every region of the world and that that is how we can provide for the global population in a way that reduces the gap between rich and poor without imposing a centralized state to control and manage the economy. If we believe in freedom, human rights and truly free markets, we need to liberate the markets from the centralized control that modern capitalism entails. When we allow the for-profit motive to transcend our social and ecological and spiritual values, we find ourselves in a situation that threatens human rights, that threatens life on earth and we urgently need to shift... |
Homero Aridjis: What is after capitalism? A new humanism, provided terrestrial ecosystems and living spheres will not be destroyed by then due to an unlimited avarice. |
Irina Yasina: It would be the right thing to say: After capitalism there will be capitalism. The point is that the free market economy wouldn’t disappear. It has already proved its superiority as the most strong and natural self-regulating productive system. Another point is that there would be no such “wild” capitalism which existed in eighteen or nineteen centuries simply because society has to care more about ecology at least in order to survive. People should behave more humanly towards different problems, and thus a system would start to be autonomic. We already have no such destructive economical crises like those in times of wild capitalism in England or for example at the beginning of twentieth century in the United States. All these things are changing somehow. Post-industrial society is our future and the world should try to achieve it. Another question is that we would have sometimes some periods of agitation when everything would appear as wild and terribly and so on as before. But no experiments are necessary because believe me there is nothing more productive and self-regulating than the market economy. All attempts to create communism had the bitter end and were paid with a lot of blood. That’s why it is not only unproductive but it’s dangerous. Thank you. by Irina Yasina |
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Jesper Green: What’s after Capitalism? I rather want to say what’s just before the end of Capitalism, that’s Apocalypse. And after Capitalism it’s exchange economy based on the resources you can find after the Apocalypse, end. by Jesper Green |
Jodie Evans: What is after capitalism? Whatever it is, I hope it comes soon, and I hope it comes gently, and I hope it takes few prisoners, and I hope that the transition, the lessons that we've learned from capitalism are deeply embedded in a capacity to value interdependence, value the local, and actually value capital, value the human capital, value the earth, value and nurture everything, which would be actually a true capitalism. That we come back to a place where we learn how to collaborate, where it's based on feminine principles, where it's not the power over, who's the biggest, or who can accumulate the most. Where we don't rely on stories like, oh, if, if we -- human nature only behaves a certain way, that we don't play to the lowest common denominator of our nature, but that the new form encourages the best parts of us, encourages the better angels of our nature instead of pushing us to the lower, lowest common denominatorand stripping the angels from our human nature. by Jodie Evans |
John Gage: What is after capitalism? Capitalism is a name for an abstract idea of exchange of value and investment, control of those resources in the world. That’s the idea of capitalism. That idea is not going away. All of human interaction depends in some sense on the metaphors of human interaction that we find fundamental. And for an expanding part of the world, a fundamental metaphor is the metaphor of market and exchange. I buy, you sell, what is price, how do we think of the value of things in monetary terms? Now, clearly, this is a small portion of the value of life, of the value of living things, of the value of inanimate things, of the value of the planet. But, this subset of human activity, this metaphor of the market, this understanding of things in a price regulated way, this capitalistic form is inherent. Countervailing forces on an idea that is not one of simple price exchange but more one of sharing, of supporting, of community, of collaboration derives from the feelings humans have in a family. So, the family economics of supporting everyone, allowing everyone to be participant and to benefit from a common set of resources, that idea countervails, works against, tries to soften and change the harsh mechanisms of computation of immediate economic return. So, after capitalism comes capitalism, but capitalism shaped in a new way as global mechanisms of information exchange and of empathetic interaction among human beings enable us to think of larger and larger family like structures, the very essence of the metaphor of the market I believe fundamentally shifts. So, we are able to see, we have a responsibility far beyond immediate capitalistic gain. by John Gage |
Jonathan Granoff: It's clear that we need a system of economic arrangement in which there's a higher level of respect for all people. And to the extent that capitalism doesn't have mitigating institutions, it's going to change. It's necessary to meet the economic needs of so many people on the planet, the gross disparities of wealth are not sustainable. Also capitalism's unlimited exploitation of natural resources is not sustainable. So at some point - I'm just giving two examples of places where unfettered capitalism has to be mitigated by other institutional considerations. As we become more effective as a human community in making our economic order responsive to protecting the environment, and more socially just, at some point will we still be calling the system capitalism - I'm not sure. You know when a system changes into something else, whether you still call it that. If what we mean by capitalism is the unfettered capacity to exploit the natural resources of the planet, and that the market determines the only wages of labor, I think that's on its way out. And what we're gonna call the new thing, I don't know what we call it, but will we do away with private property? Will we do away with the rights of movement, rights of capital investment, things that involve harnessing greed into creativity? I don't know. |
Jonathan Meese: The only option is art. Art will come into power. There is no man-made ideology that has not been tried. Everything is a game, everything is the dictatorship and tyranny of love and art. And when art comes into power with its own conditions, a great adventure will begin - a hermetic and self-contained adventure that releases us into our freedom. Freedom is defined by itself not by us. We constantly try to define things by our own existential orientations, opinions and flavour to neutralize them. This will be stopped. Now we have arrived the dead-point. Capitalism is as dead as any other mankind-ideology. The only living is art. Art is a creature full of live, a wineskin that is able to replenish itself again and again with that what it wants to have - such as a predator. According to its own conditions this predator will have eaten it's fill and then it will eliminate a juice. This juice will hit us without us wanting it. It is the nectar of a new ideology, an ideology flows from art. We do not know anything. This could be the paradies - we do not know. It is a carousel - a carousel of a new power. Art is itself, art is the overcoming of the dead-point. The dead-point is replaced - by art. We have to meet this phenomen modestly. In the mine of of art capitalism is only a jewel. |
Jonathan Stack: I have no idea what's after capitalism. I guess we are going to find out over time. I mean, I think that the core of capitalism is the sort of self improvement, it's just a place to what certain obvious human desire, maybe [in this common economy], but built within capitalism seems to be the seeds of its own destruction. Eventually, if we just keep playing to the human desire, we are going to consume our chance of existence. There is going to have to be a more rational approach to economic production and the consumption. And I don’t know if that can exist without some form of like social production and social distribution, and it's happening anyhow. On that other hand, it's so powerful capitalism, it's so deep seeded that it's used to have transcended great criticism of it. Right now, I am not thinking capitalism or what comes after capitalism, I am thinking how can we do better within the system that already exists. |
José Manuel Prieto: Well, this kind of question gets me into trouble. What comes after capitalism? One can remember in this case the famous thesis at the end of one story from Francis Fukuyama, which is so criticized and controversial: „If there came something of this from capitalism, it would be, to think eternally with the same obsolete logic of progress, that there is a chain of of systems that follow in turn, so that after capitalism would come socialism, after socialism would come communism, and communism would be a system that would end the chain of human development or culminate in it.“ It’s a question that carries in itself a scheme of thought, from my point of view, outdated. There wouldn’t have to be talked about a system that would come after capitalism or any other system. There would have to be talked about systems which were improving, which were optimizing themselves, which were incorporating different discoveries or were proceeding in social engineering, so that they were hybrid systems or systems which incorporated elements of socialism, to call them like that, or what had been socialism, incorporated elements of capitalism or elements of many other systems. Therefore it cannot be talked of obtaining a system that comes before or after another one, but of a simultaneous corporation of many elements. I think that this would be my answer to that question. Thank you. |
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