Register or Login

Question

204 responses | 14 votes

view media
play

Aug 27, 2006 10:06:35 PM cite

Is organized religion the root of all evil?

by pjmccann3

Please login to rate.

Jan 16, 2007 10:55:37 AM cite

Not all evil, but the majority of murder, torture, war and plain spirit-breaking that humanity has subjected itself to over the course of its evolvement. Religion, in all its various guises, is dangerous nonsense. At best, it crushes free enquiry and blunts joy of life by imposing dogmata unfounded by any ascertainable evidence whatsoever; at worst, it precipitates wars. We need to become free of religion! We need education that enlightens us as individuals and strengthens our human bonds across gender, cultures, races and geographic distance. The natural world, including human nature, is more exciting, varied and full of promise than anything any religion could ever pretend to be the case. "Wonders" are all around us, right in front of our eyes. Stop praying, start thinking!

by duckisschwester

Please login to rate.

Jan 16, 2007 7:30:50 AM cite

We tend, as civilized beings, to forget how incredibly violent nature is. A bat will catch, dismember and devour 1000 insects in the course of an evening. Mt. Saint Helens destroyed square miles of forest in an instant. Organized religion is a means of attempting to socialize the residues of that tendency towards violence. It does so by creating "moral safe zones" in which inflexible rules are used to guide and control behavior. Unfortunately, where cultures meet, tensions are exacerbated because the risk of negotiating differences at the boundaries is destabilization of the whole. I was recently told by a Catholic priest, in effect, that the major world religions could "no longer afford to ignore each other". The lives of their adherents are simply too deeply intertwined. Unfortunately, he seemed less than confident that we are ready for that engagement. Unfortunately, the engagement is unavoidable. If we were to eliminate organized religion, we'd simply have to invent something else to replace it. As I have explored that territory, however, I have learned that "gods" have interesting physical and psychological characteristics. We might be led down the same roads, when all was said and done... I believe that the leaders of organized religions are doing the best they can, given the limits of human understanding and influence, to solve an extremely difficult problem.

by Trichronos

Please login to rate.

Jan 10, 2007 9:03:14 PM cite

In my opinion all religion is organized so I could for my own sake drop the adjective "organized" from my own personal discussion of religion. To me religion has become the worst form of "idol worship" humanity could ever fear to attain. Each religious sect, movement, institution, etc., marches under their own rigid banners. Banners based on what? I couldn't begin to say. People don't question them anymore. Generation after generation brought up to adhere to a religious practice that has less to do faith and morality and more to do with the senseless idea that "if I'm right, then your wrong." What makes me right? I see no victory in self-righteousness. I feel religion only serves to isolate people and I believe faith/spirituality are impossible to capture under the guise of any one "organized" religion.

by voltaire26

Please login to rate.

Jan 7, 2007 11:59:47 PM cite

'Gott ist tot' - Gott sei dank. "Inschallah", bayr. "vergeijts Gott" Der streng bayrische Muslim bzw. muslimische Bayer trinkt dann doch a Hojbe, nach Sonnenuntergang natürlich ! "Luja sog i"

by __anon_70489252

Please login to rate.

Dec 15, 2006 8:08:22 PM cite

organized religion is not the root of all evil. granted, some people do blame their actions on their religion, it is still far from being the source of all things wrong. religion gives people something to believe in. no matter what "god" you serve, u still put in your faith in something. even aithiests have thier personal beliefs, even though they dont answer to a higher authority. so, to answer your question, no. religion is far from the being the root of all evil.

by cami311

Please login to rate.

Dec 3, 2006 10:06:00 AM cite

Although I can see how one might say that, I don't think this is necessarily so. I am not a religious person at all, however, I have seen people get great enjoyment, strength, focus and...well, a whole pile of other things, from organized religion. Some people, however, twist things and do things in the name of their organized religion that reflects very poorly on said religion. I think religion, at times CAN be the root of evil...it can be the platform that someone basis their evil thoughts or evil doings on, but, overall, I don't think organized religion as a whole is the root of all evil, all of the time.

by snfu73

Please login to rate.

Nov 14, 2006 3:22:37 PM cite

I'm not good with religion and philosophy, but if consciousness can exist without physiological form, then I think any religion would work. I just think evilness is the discreptancy between our image of the ideal world and the physical world. Even when his holiness the Dalai Lama drinks water, it kills tens of thousands of bacteria. (Don't get me wrong, I have great affection for him!) I might be wrong, but I think each religion profess it can creat a better world. If our perception of good/evil derives from religion, and religious organizations perpetually seek to creat a better world, then would it not be unavoidable to condemn the current world which itself is intricately a part of? I prefer to live in a world with religion, otherwise laws would be baseless, and I could be stabbed today and it wouldn't be an evil deed.

by JustinCC

Please login to rate.

Nov 2, 2006 1:56:14 PM cite

Religion is a region with a li(e) in it. It's (philo)logical.

by new illuminati

Please login to rate.

Oct 31, 2006 1:12:26 AM cite

Organized Religion is not the 'Root of all Evil', to discover that we must search more deeply. 'Religion' will be used here to refer to the original core teaching, and all have emphasized Love, Compassion, and Tolerance. 'Organized Religion' will mean the corporate church and other institutions related to it, as well as the codified dogma expressed by that organized religion. While some may argue that organized religiion does not need a building, here the word church stands for a group of worshipers coming together, as well as a building. A religion may be practiced by an individual or a group who share a common belief system. The root source of evil must be desire, not the healthy kind such as hunger for food, seeking company, Shelter or others, but that desire expressed as greed or lust. This can be manifest in many ways. The greed for money and posessions may only be self-distructive to the person involved, however if greed extends to injuring others (physically or financially) then it is evil to others aa well. The most dangerous is the lust for power and influence, here the evil becomes evident when those who have acquired power begin to abuse that athority. There are many good people who achieve a position of power and wield it with compassion and good will, but many succumb to the temptation, and corruption sets in. Often, though the abuse is morally wrong, it does not violate any law and is not prosecutable. Organized religion is only one setting for this evil to develope. Any act of violence or evil in the name of religion is a result of the perversion and corruption of that religion to the point of being diametrically opposed to that teaching. Also Religion answers to a higher authority only in a spiritual sense. The corporate church must still abide by the 'Law of the Land', churches are not exempt from obeying the law. The root of evil must lie in the individual or group of individuals who disregard the welfare of others for their own gain. This is evident in the political arena, in the corporate world where profit outweighs the common good, organized crime with a total disregard for law and authority, and organized religion where a corruption of the original teaching leads to evil and violence. Religion teaches Tolerance, Compassion and Love for others. Any teaching or practice that deviates from that must be attributed to those who advocate those deviant teachings. Organized religion is only one venue where evil men and women can indulge their perverse obsessions. We must look beyond the structure to the individual lust that leads to evil.

by thedoc

Please login to rate.

Oct 28, 2006 3:20:58 PM cite

If organized religion is the root of all evil, then all humankind would be the root itself. (Which is not too far from reality as I believe.) Humans always were religious, searching for their roots, for God, for security and hope for the future. And out of this movements religions grew and became "organisations" also. Not the religions itself are the problem, we are. I think.

by wintermorgen

Please login to rate.

Oct 16, 2006 8:04:26 PM cite

The root of all evil is ignorance. Ignorance about oneself - about the mechanism of consciousness - about the I AM and that produces fear, hate and everything that is considered as evil. The religious institutions are also just a product of fear. They are not the cause. So if you don't like what you see or experience, change your mind. Start to know yourself and follow your bliss. That's easier than to stare at what you don't like, isn't it!

by mbl

Please login to rate.

Religious institutions

Oct 26, 2006 1:09:33 AM cite

mbl, I totally agree with your view. The religious institutions are not at cause. Their resitance to change and adapt is however a stubborn problem. Yes, it all lies in fear. Fear is in our instinct, it is difficult to rationalize it and become master of it. Fact is that the entire concept of the Church is based on, and was created out of fear that we naturally and instinctively harbour. So it is correct that education should lead to religion becoming an unnecessary comfort for us. So why doesn't it to most? Would you claim that these are to uneducated?

by Stefantast

Please login to rate.

This post has been moderated

Oct 26, 2006 1:06:55 AM

The original content of this post has been removed by a moderator at May 21, 2007 16:03.

by Stefantast

Oct 14, 2006 4:12:07 PM cite

No matter what Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins might claim, religion is simply a manifestation of humanity's need to make sense of the world. Granted, it is often pre-rational, but it is stage in the development of our species. We all move through some variation of this stage, and religion is its most widely-known cultural component. We can't skip stages in our growth as individuals or as a species, so the hope is to make them as healthy as possible. If the question were reframed as: Is organized religion a healthy manifestation of the rule/role stage of development? Then you might have a topic that can be discussed in rational and post-rational ways.

by whraven

Please login to rate.

Oct 10, 2006 3:34:33 PM cite

Hi, Break the organised religious monopoly. Create our own religion. We are gifted bio computer. Nature proposes and disposes us. Touchable part of our life is somatoware, like skin, bone or blood etc. Untouchable part of life is psychoware, like life energy, emotions, thought, skill, wisdom etc. We can compare our life with hardware and software in computer. Religion, philosophy, tradition and culture are working atmosphere like dos, windows or linex in computer. It is up to we, what we want out of it. All the predictive sciences are diagnostic tools to assess one's configuration for knowing scope or limitation of its upgradeability. Five sensory perceptions are input and out device. Mind works as information transformator, it convert info time and info space in real time and real space. Source of energy is bio electrical charges in our body blended with our emotions. ... Your comment please!!

by bhaskarshodh

Please login to rate.

Oct 6, 2006 4:55:22 AM cite

Any 'thing' that you can't take with you and the love of it, is the root of evil. It might be better said that "obsession" often leads to evil doings. It doesn't always lead this way, as some go there and learn from it, come back fine, but much wiser. Everyone has a soul, it is this soul that has all these desires, wants, needs that can get us into a path that we may eventually want to get off of. But, to deny these desires, wants, etc., often leads to other problematic issues. This is not to say that we should pursue things that are illegal to satisfy our souls needs. In the context of religion or government (historically representative of where power has been abused, mostly)...it can be said, as was said by Lord Acton; "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." So, the advent of democracy (not to get off topic). The problem with most all organized religions is rooted in the founder of that religion, in that 'they' never established a "true" community of followers/disciples/devotees. But, as truth be told, it is the hunger for truth, compassion and love that mostly motivates 'us' in becoming involved with a particular religion. Both the founder and the follower are responsible for corruption. There is no "one" human being that should be allowed to stand up and say they are the "only one". And as a follower we should not revere them to the point of giving up on our free will (it is God that gave us that gift). Community is probably one of the most important aspects in human life. Feeling like we belong to 'a' community is just as important. If a organized religion provides this, and I believe is best suited for it, then we would do well to become a part of it. But, it’s important to be knowledgeable of all or most forms of religion that express spiritual truths. It is this discernment that helps us as humans to feel like we are making a wiser decision. Blind faith should only be considered when there is no other choice, or when we have reached major spiritual growth; because at some point, words, concepts, etc., will not be adequate to continue our experience. I believe that anything that tries to make me feel separate from others, that uses its power to separate me from others, is truly evil (not the root of it). What I mean is, it’s the 'knowing', in your body, heart and soul that we are NOT separate. What we do or say has an effect on everything. It can affect our own future as well as the future of another. So, respect, responsibility and love may be the primary ways to become a part of a community, and for that community welcome us to it. Finally, we live in a world of opposites or dualities. You cannot live very long, in harmony, when there is only goodness. Utopia does not support motivation, for if you have all that you need, it would lead us to sloth-ness. That doesn't mean we should intentionally commit acts that are contrary to goodness. It means to understand that the only absolute truth is change. We know not when it will come, what will come from it, nor how everyone might react to it. Your future is not predictable, but choices enable us to become something other than what we are not. It is this way of being that supports us in becoming truly happy.

by ghodges

Please login to rate.

Oct 5, 2006 8:14:38 PM cite

In my oppinion not religion is the root of all evil. religion gives men help, safety, spiritual satisfaction and more. It does not animate people to kill or be evil. no religion does. it animates to live. but as it was allready sayd, religion has a lot of power and it is used by people, because of its power and effect on humans. It is used for the own greed for more power of those people. But this happens not because of religion, this happens because of live, because of being human. One of the biggest tasks in live is to learn to deal with power. and killing or being violent in a name of religion, as it happens in this world, is the greatest prove how many people fail to this task.

by Ernest B.R.

Please login to rate.

Oct 4, 2006 5:50:35 PM cite

I think that organized religion is created in the fear that without it humans are immoral and that there will be complete chaos in the society. It is taken in a historical factual sense instead of a mythological sense so that people destroy over its historical value instead of learning moral lessons from the stories. It also creats unconciousness in the masses. It is also created as a tool to prevent evolution and new ways of thought. It has been abused for centuries to grasp power and for domination. But religion is also a very valuable way to learn morallity and to take these myths as powerful stories. It is also important to question these stories as we question ourselves.

by rayman

Please login to rate.

Oct 4, 2006 1:43:41 PM cite

Dieter Bahlau: question "Why do we need Organisations for Religion - like the Church - Why can´t everybody just believer what he wants?" read this thread for more arguments on the same theme

by bertthemoto

Please login to rate.

Oct 1, 2006 8:44:52 PM cite

Perhaps when we organize things, as humans we tend to create structural pyramids, with some person(s) at the top. In doing so, we are giving that topmost entity the most power. Power has a tendency to corrupt, and this perhaps is closer to the root of all evil. Not that I am a fan of organized religion; historically it has certainly done some ugly things to the planet and the beings that inhabit it.

by Kidden

Please login to rate.