May 31, 2007 10:24:28 PM cite

A new Heaven and a new Earth...

by michaelm18x

May 31, 2007 3:24:18 AM cite

Yes, that' s a really interesting question... I have no idea, but it remembers me at "happenings" in history... What's after absolutism? or What's after kommunism? Nobody had known what was going on in future. Expect the unexpected....But there's another interest in this question... you shall have a dream about life after this... and this has always brought changes in history... why not? Respect for your vision!! this is the first step of an imagine of annother way of life...thank you!!! ps: you are the first who has asked a question like this in 38 years.....I have to think more about it...we will see us again...

by castillo

May 26, 2007 5:25:47 PM cite

It's called Corporatism. It's commandeered what used to be called a Free Market Economy. It forces poor people in poorer countries to accept goods from richer countries. It forces those poor people off the land that should belong to them into crowded cities with low wages. It sterilizes the culture. It sanitizes information for our protection. It accepts nothing less than every minute tendency of human beings in order to properly serve us. This is not capitalism. In fact it's very possible we've never truly had it. It's a kind of business totalitarianism. We need to call it by it's proper name in order to defeat it. It's called Corporatism and it won't stop until it's under your skin and inside your brain.

by mosesherzog

May 14, 2007 2:58:36 AM cite

to explore other ideas that embrace the whole of life animal, mineral. vegetable rather than see them as commodities to be consumed - that we cannot see anything else other than capialitism, is a testomoney to how far we have strayed from our inherent natures and our creative ablity to envision different ways of being

by unity1

May 12, 2007 10:14:22 PM cite

Social Democracy, Self Governance, Self Sustainability, Lack of Continental Infrastructure...in a Perfect World.

by andrewe843

Apr 23, 2007 4:47:27 PM cite

It's really difficult to say what comes after capitalism since no society on earth has as yet reached the capitalist stage. Most nations that are today labeled "capitalist" are in fact fascist. Fascism is characterized by the partnership between big government and big business. Virtually every problem blamed on "capitalism" is in fact caused by the absence of capitalism. This includes especially the problem of poverty. Fascism is a system "by the rich, for the rich" and systematically transfers wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich. Capitalism, on the other hand, creates opportunities for the poor to become the middle class. The United States came closest to establishing captialism during its very early years, but the fascists gained solid control by 1913. Captialism is defined as the complete separation of economy and state. In a capitalsit society there would be no interference by the government in the economic affairs of its citizens. There would be no licensing of businesses or professions, no regulation of any business by any agency of government. There would be no chartering of corporations by the State. The consumers would have absolute control of all production through their individual purchase decisions. All production would be aimed solely at satisfying the needs/desires of the consumers. Unfortunately, this very desireable state of affairs has never been achieved by any society. Every society on earth has suffered from some level of government intervention in its economy. As for what comes after capitalism once it is achieve the answer is - nothing. Captialism is the highest possible economic order.

by EddieWillers

Apr 18, 2007 10:23:53 PM cite

Marx coined the term Capitalist- Capitialism is the process of gain that comes from effort. This will never leave us. In it's purest sense, we are all capitalists is we invest ourselves wisely, and do not waste our lives.

by Jeffrey Pelletier

Apr 10, 2007 11:42:48 PM cite

I'm convinced that the current physiocratic system named "ordre ?naturell?" is already some kind of perfectly perverted love and can be only replaced by true love i. e. kind of "ordre du coeur"...

by zombie passage

Apr 10, 2007 9:28:49 PM cite

what is after capitalism? what was before capitalism? the current crop of individuals now trying to make a change in the world that are from the beast itself (usa) have grown up capitalists. they were born into it. from the time they pass through that birth canal they are exposed to and force fed ideologies that many do not question. the foundations that capitalism rests on is only as old as the people "in charge" right now. a process of un-learning would have to take place. i suppose there would be many methods which one could practice that would set them on the right track. i dont know. i need coffe.....

by strugglerschoice

Apr 2, 2007 4:23:37 PM cite

capatilism is long dead my friends they have now invented a new word for it, its called industrialism the new weapon of the greedy, and everytime you buy something you do nothing but add to it, yet you can't live without buying a nice little carousel

by Muggy

Mar 30, 2007 11:00:16 PM cite

We will soon invent AI and it will rule us.

by Pavel Shershnev

Mar 25, 2007 4:16:29 PM cite

i think the most people don't think about discussing capitalism. the system is out of bounds. on the other hand capitalism destroys everything humanists have fought for. capitalism itself will lead to a great war and will never come back...

by heli82

Mar 22, 2007 9:46:11 PM cite

I do think that one has to understand that neither Capitalism nor any other Monetary System based on current values like e.g. gold or silver will create a fair environment for the growth of mankind.

by hope4

Mar 21, 2007 4:46:41 PM cite

Capitalism and socialism are systems to organise a world. I don't think we can decide rationally "What's after capitalism?" until we are clear what purpose we want the "new" system to meet. Which comes down to deciding what sort of world we want. I have done a lot of work with vision building (There is an article on www.nickheap.co.uk) and discovered that when there is enough trust and connection, people agree about what they want. This works with teams and organisations. It ought to work globally. A nice question might be, "It's a Wednesday in 10 years time and as you listen to the news on the radio you think this is amazing, all the things I wanted to happen are happening. What would you be hearing?" So, what would you be hearing? What sort of world do you want? When we know this, we will know what system we need to deliver it.

by nickheap

Mar 19, 2007 7:11:23 PM cite

It seems to me that a question such as what comes after capitalism suggests that we have already maximised the benefits of capitalism. We should be asking the questions that perhaps generations before us thought would be answered with the emergence of modern industrial nations: how can capitalism make our lives better? I have seen that some people have mentioned this idea that their needs to be a refocus on how capitalism is practised. It is unfathomable that large amounts of wealth that can be ammassed by individuals while others can literally starve to death. Yet these people with so much feel no responsibility because they have 'earned' their money. Let's start big: the top-flight footballer who plays two games a week and then practices another 4 days a week from about 9:30 to 12:00 can earn anywhere from about 10,000 euros to 100,000+ euros. Of course he earns that money. But we don't even need to be that extreme. The average person earning an average wage is better off than most of the world's citizens. And I appreciate that poverty is relative but there are millions, if not billions, livingin absolute poverty - with absolutely nothing. In general we, the ordinary people, are everything that is wrong with capitalism. We buy into the lifestyle without putting demands on how it should function. Do we question where the products that we consume on a daily basis (food/clothing/etc.) come from. Do we question why production costs which are so low should reap such big turnovers? Why is that when we say workers should be paid a fair wage that companies try to neutralise our protests by claiming higher wages would mean higher retail prices. We should be saying: No...higher wages should mean less profit for you extremely wealthy directors and shareholders...the chocolate I buy will now be fairtrade chocolate...I will not buy Ronaldinho's replica Barca jersey for 70 euros so he can earn a fortune. We should be asking ourselves why has capitalism become an excuse for exploitation. There is nothing wrong with maximising profit as long as social consciousness is at the base of this concept. Capitalism is still young and as such is typically selfish but hopefully it will continue to grow and mature. However, to do that capitalism needs the active participation of the people...we cannot sit by idly and hope for the emergence of good leaders with a strong sense of social responsibility to adopt better fairer economic policies...history has proved that is futile. We need to put demands on our leaders, on corporations and on consumers to ensure that all society (not just our city, county, state or country) receives a fair deal. We should not make the mistake that capitalism is inevitable, though that may be the case for the forseeable future. We have to ensure that 'ethical capitalism' comes to fruition and that the world does not become disillusioned with an economic system that actually can give people a good deal. I think the question we should be asking and trying our hardest to influence is: What will capitalism be when it grows up?

by retter13

Feb 25, 2007 2:41:18 PM cite

It is obvious that the present prevailing economic system is not able to sustain itself, it is self-destructive (e.g. see the UN-report on climatic change). "Capitalism" is not based upon the common good of all and everything, including nature, but on money as a value in itself - apart from its purpose of allowing the exchange of goods and services - and the belief (myth) that by serving one's own interest the whole is served best (Darwin, Adam Smith). We can observe right now that this myth is not true. Humanity is challenging itself right now to find a new answer. The answer to the posed question cannot be found in economic terms. The root of the problems we are facing as humanity lies in our basic prevailing belief system, which is: we are all separate physical beings, we have to fight for survival, we are superior to nature and rule over the earth and have a right to do whatever we want. This belief system is basically a Western one. If that is so what then is a saving belief system? We are all spiritual beings and one by virtue of our intrinsic nature and origin. Life upon earth is ultimately meant to manifest our spiritual nature of oneness, beauty, abundance, love. We understand more and more that nature is an infinitely complex undertaking of cooperation and connectedness, which to destroy we are presently doing our best. It is our choice to learn from our past mistakes and change our destructive belief systems. It is our choice to destroy our habitat and future or to create a new beautiful world expressive of our true nature. Capitalism would then be replaced by a system of intensiv cooperation and caring and respect for each person and thing in this world. The three capital values "freedom, equality, fraternity" would finally find universal expression.

by Sirius