Jul 11, 2009 6:12:26 AM cite

The truth exists, and facts are unalterable, and neither are subject to the understanding or comprehension of the human mind. Philosophers can argue over meanings, statisticians can prove one thing or another, and liars can figure numerous ways to decieve you. Truth and fact are independent of our perception of them, they exist whether we see them or not. What is manufactured is falsehood and deception. Truth and fact are not subjective but exist whether they are percieved or not, they are not created but distorted and corrupted to suit an individuals lustful ends. People can argue and debate what is truth or fact but in reality they do not know, they only have their imperfect perception and can only produce a vague impression. To say that what is true for you is different than what is true for another is to say that your misunderstanding of reality is different from theirs. The truth is that you are all wrong and are trying to pass off your delusions to others as wisdom. In the end you don't manufacture anything, you just manipulate words, corrupt meanings to decieve and control others. Everyone is blind to the truth that is right in front of them, like Don Quixote tilting at windmills seeing monsters where therte are none, seeing truth where there is only the fiction of false ideas and beliefs. - - - - Except for me.

by thedoc

Mar 24, 2010 3:16:51 AM cite

Just joking about eyes wide shut, surely not you. Actually I have come to realize albeit slowly and often with contradictory circumstances that you and I agree where it counts. I do argue over meanings as I am a philosopher. I consider the variables to arrive at the truth and nearly always the truth is not the ways of man but the ways of the natural world minus mans misperceptions (illusions). Philosophy can be called an internal debate within the mind of an individual. There is the true reality of the natural world and philosophy can be used as a mental tool to examine, discern and understand the ways of nature, this is a thought process. What you learn from this is wisdom; wisdom about true reality, nature’s reality not mans manufactured reality. The goal is not delusion corruption or manipulation it is the understanding of the ways of the natural world. I have always felt the truth of nature but I had to strive to understand it, it is comprehensible. I saw it with my heart and now I realize that to communicate it to others with the aim of saving the planet I need knowledge and more importantly wisdom to convince others that there is a problem. The problem is the misperceptions of man; he has a sickness of the soul (psyche). He thinks that he owns the world, but he is the self important ego driven species that is killing the natural world, the true reality. So I am honored to be in the company of father Quixote the hero, but the monsters are real and they are us.

by Thai sean

Mar 23, 2010 5:56:28 PM cite

your answer here confuses me a bit in that you seem to be quite convinced that truth does exist outside of human consciousness, and you assert that this truth is perverted and manipulated by all those who attempt to ascertain truth. I guess what perplexes me with this answer is that you refer to truth and facts but never explain those concepts and i am interested in what your criterion for discerning reality from fiction is.

by skeenan