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Mar 4, 2010 4:30:48 PM cite

This is really 3 questions and I will answer them one at a time. I will assume that you aere not refering to the physical or bioligical as there are many sources that can answer that better than I. Humans have been evolving for millions of years and carry characteristics and traits from our predecessors. Thai Sean has posted an excelent discription of this evolutionary baggage here, http://www.droppingknowledge.org/bin/posts/focus/38523.page There is also a lot of social and cultural practices that have accumulated over the generations, All these factors form the background of what humans are and where we come from. One of the functions of Mythology is to connect us with our history, not just as an individual but all of humanity, but the old myths are failing because they were told in terms of past cultures and many cannot relate to the images of the Myth and cannot grasp the meaning. A person living in a modern city has no common experience with a hunter gatherer. In Judeo/Christian Mythology we are taught that man was formed from the 'Dust of the Earth', and the common image is that God scooped up some dirt shaped it into a man and brought it to life. This is not literally true, what the Myth teaches is that like the old saying 'You are what you eat' man is formed from the 'Dust of the Earth' in that all our food comes from the Earth. Plants grow in the soil and produce fruit vegatables and grain that we eat, some of it is fed to animals that we also eat. We come from the Earth, and Mythology should teach us Awe and Reverance for the Earth we came from and Nature that we are part of. Human beings are part of Nature and not seperate from it. This is one of the major failings of Religion that teaches this seperation and allienates Religion from Mythology, to teach that man is a seperate special creation. All life on earth is one life in a multitude of shapes and forms, any living cell on earth can read and process the DNA of any other living cell. All life on Earth, including people can trace their origins back to the 'Big Bang', the begining of all space, time, energy, and matter. The early stars were formed of Hydrogen and a little Helium, there was nothing else, and cooked up many of the heavier elements, but only the stars that went nova and exploded created even hevier elements and spread them back into the universe. This early 'Star Dust' then coalesced into later stars and at some point clouds of dust rich in heavy elements formed the Solar System and the Earth, and now we have life that developed from the dust of exploding stars, and can now contemplate the meaning of life, and the universe. Human Beings are in the universe, we are part of the universe, we came from the universe. The function of Mythology is to spiritulize where you are. You are in a home, your home is in a place, in a comunity, a society, on the Earth and in the Universe. All these should give you a sense of Awe and Wonderment at the mystrey of life and existance. Mythology should instill in you a reverance for all that is arround you, and invoke a sense of caring for your world. When I contemplate the idea that every atom in my body was once inside a star that blew up I can't help being overwhelmed at the vastness on space and time that lead up to me. When I look at other living things arround me I can't help but be amazed at how life functions, and survives. There is a line from a movie 'When you stand beside lake Michigan and feel small with the understanding that there is something greater than you.' In the same light look up at the night sky and contemplate the vastness of the universe and understand that you are part of it, realize that you are one with something that much bigger that you. Perhaps there are new myths that are working for some but they are not in the old recognizable forms, but the mystrey is still with us. Life comes from life and feeds on Death. People, along with all life comes from the Earth, from the Universe, and someday we will physically return, some say that then we will be one with all that is, but the truth is that we need only to realize that we are already one with all that is, and spiritually we can return any time we like, but many just don't know it yet.

by thedoc

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  thx again :) by wbm 0 votes

Mar 13, 2010 11:09:52 PM cite

i found what i was longing for in my life and im working with for shure till the end of my life to remove the obstacles of duality in my mind for a possible fully remembering that im free from the old (where i come from) to be able to be here and now (which i see as most important) and therefore being able to walk into a good future for being useful for all beings (living compassion, no, not the om-sweet-om way - im more on a practial direction here :) ) i wish deep that there are more and more people which can find their individual way out of socalled duality :) and i dont talk here about avoiding (healthy interest in all directions of life is useful - socalled spirituality should not trace anything out beause the basement of socalled spirituality is that we are deeply connected to all sentient beings etc.)

by wbm

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Mar 6, 2010 3:19:04 AM cite

i appreciate and enjoyed your response. I see that in other posts you have referenced "god" and i am interested in what your perception of that concept is and how it fits and functions into the picture of the universe you have painted in your response.

by skeenan

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god ?

Mar 13, 2010 11:11:37 PM cite

i personally dont believe in god, i have chosen to work with the mind ... and there is no god :-) as i said, just my individual view...

by wbm

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God is the Universe.

Mar 9, 2010 8:43:43 PM cite

I had to give this one a bit of thought, but will start by saying that I am still revising my concept of God. To start with some background, many years ago I was brought up Lutheran with a traditional view of the Bible and God, later involvement with a very strict sect of the Church only served to drive me away. Study of Karate led me to read and addopt some of the concepts from Buddhism and the realization of so many similarites led me back to the mainstream Lutheran church, but with a revised view of the Bible and God. If you have read some of my other posts you will see that unlike others I do not try to put God in a box and sharply define what he can be, or can do. Any being or intelligence that can initiate the Big Bang and create the Universe is much greater than anything that the Human mind can imagian or comprehend. As Thai Sean says God is a metaphore for that which we cannot express or understand but can only experience. (I hope I got that right). Exposure to Joseph Campbell has led me to understand that the bible is primarily Judeo/Christian Mythology and as such cannot be read as a historic document, with a few exceptions, but as a collection of stories that teach lessons through symbols and metaphore much like parables and fables. I attribute to God the creation of the Universe, and accept that Jesus Christ was 'One with the Father' in that he existed as a historical figure and had a direct connection to God, but much of what is written about him is symbolic and not literal. I resist the temptation to elaborate and be more specific as my ideas would probably be much too limited, and I was not there to witness the events. As far as Gods involvment in the workings of the Universe, especially here on Earth such as the miracels and the various Bible stories, I have mixed feelings on that. I reject the idea that after creating everything God had to meddle and fix or correct errors or things that went wrong. At one point I felt that everything was put into motion from the begining and everything was progessing exactly as planed without intervention including those events that are inexplicable to our limited human understanding. I thought that this was an extremely elegant and miraculous view of creation. Currently I am entertaining the concept that once created, life was given free will to develop and move by choice with the full understanding that an occasional adjustment would be in order. This is only acceptable if it was God's intention to be this way, as a God who made mistakes and had to fix things would be imperfect and therefore unacceptable. An imperfect 'God' would just be another finite being and therefore less than God. I hope this answers your question, and clarifies where I am at this point, if not please ask. Concepts of God and Religious beliefs should be malleable and open to change, as a rigid inflexable Dogma can only stagnate and die, taking your beliefs, religion and spirituality with it. Mythology is the source of religion, but too many religions have been corrupted and allienated from the source Mythology and cease to be living, but die and wither away to a dry empty dogma.

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