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Profile of Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva
It is another interesting question, and it [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It is another interesting question, and it is very interesting, that it has been put anonymously. It isn’t even signed. But I think that there are millions of people who could ask this question. It isn't an accidence that it is anonymous. To counteract…I think, the reply to it was already given thousands of years ago: to counteract with goodness. Only embittered and despairing people who were taken rights to exist, to love, to develop as personalities, to develop their personal minds they didn’t experience happy energy of love, because they didn’t get it. Even those people who have everything and even hundreds and thousands times more that they can make use of, have a great lack of love. That’s why they have to own all that things like expensive cloths, twenty cars instead of one and a big cold castle instead of a normal quiet comfortable home. They need it because there is a lack of love. And I always try to do it: I am a clown, I am against violence. And when I work on a performance – I do things myself and direct things – I try to give people a lot of smiling and a lot of positive energy. I arrange my brief stories which are very kind and show my attitude to animals, objects, human beings, or I show people deformed sides of their characters and they laugh at themselves.
I think, we do not, because we are created [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think, we do not, because we are created of the same atoms, or elements as trees, or this. This is life, locked in the shell, and it is created in the same way like I am. It turns out to be a bird that would flie then and have a right to exist, like me. We have been very arrogant for a long time, thinking that a man is "the creator of the nature" and has a right to destroy everything around him. But killing and destroying everything around, a human beings does not realise that he is destroying himself. We haven’t been thinking for a long time about what we have been doing. We turned round rivers and destroyed mountains for our benefit, because “man is a creator of a universe”. We used that slogans and thought, that we did our life better, more comfortable. But we have made it more unbearable, we have destroyed ..around.
If people do not change their mind, their [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: If people do not change their mind, their consciousness, it can lead to a catastrophe. There’s nothing after this, you know. I think that after this there would be nothing, if people do not change their ways of thinking and ethical values, because capitalism already had its best times and now naturally declines as everything ever born has to die, like every structure. It has got ugly forms with time and is completely deformed, because people following this system hoped to gain a lot of the experience, to get more free time for personal growing for everyone. It caused the contrary effect: much more exploitation, robbery, and a much stronger deformation of everything. And people will be forced to find another structure. Besides I am convinced that the most important thing is to change ourselves. Because when you search for some information in computer, there is experience and knowledge of a great deal of generations. And yet it’s a yesterday’s information. We should come to a new knowledge.
Of course, globalisation as a process [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Of course, globalisation as a process strengthens the dictatorship, because corrupt concerns and politicians work together. Yet this is a process which leads to a fact, that united…we come to such a time, when we have to settle differences in all organizational structures.
I have a deal with a lot of young people [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I have a deal with a lot of young people because I am working [inaudible] as art director and regisseur [director]. I am working now to make some piece about integration, and I am speaking with young people who are working with me “how is the situation in the school?” because in the school of Germany there grow up a lot of different nations. In the school, in the class – for example, my son who studies in the school in Germany – there are fifteen pupils, only five Germans and others from different countries. They find their own language, and I am working in circus as a clown and I am driving in every country in the world and I meet a lot of people and artists from different nations. And we come together and our children after two or three hours they play together speaking some language, a wonderful language of understanding, you know. It is no Italian, English or Russian or Polish. They are speaking some people language, you know, they understand together. It means they have no aggression, because after a little [time] they understand it is better to play together and they have wisdom from childhood. It is a clean wisdom, wisdom for all people. And the young people who do it they need, they have deficit of love; they have a deficit of attention. They have a problem with dignity, because this big danger - adult people who have their own ideas - they make this because young people don’t become this idea. They have very much energy, and they have a very big potential and it’s a problem from people around them, from family, pedagogues to rule them, rule this enormous big positive energy in a good side, in a good position. It’s time. The people grown up with love they never become criminal because they become a lot of love for growing up because their souls are flowing … [video ends]
It’s because the place where we are living [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It’s because the place where we are living is not determining. What does home mean? Is it a place where you were born: a house, a town, a village, a country, or is it the Earth? Of course, everybody needs to feel himself belonging to something, to have some support. I think, that a man, who asked this question, was born in that country, had may be a good family, good friends in the school or in the place, where he studied. It means people. Every human being, as I said before, is a particular huge system, a microcosm, and he feels a responsibility for that social group, organization, for his family. And it’s excellent, it’s beautiful, because if in a family some conflicts happen or if someone treats you unfairly, it doesn’t mean that you have to reject him, to drive him out, to isolate yourself from him, to say “no, I don’t belong to you”. May be you should do something about the situation in order that this family member and your neighbours understand your point of view, feel your energy, your good will, your wish to change the world. And then people around you, your family, the community, your town, and the world would be kinder. I think, it is right so. We are growing, we are going forward. And of course we can remember that America or Holland or England had colonies and exploited, and it was terrible unfair. But we…
The scientists, all people whose subject [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: The scientists, all people whose subject this is, about economic position in the whole world. It’s sure we can feed all people who need this and bring clean water in Africa or other places where the need it. For this money – it’s a budget – you can buy for this money in the year a lot of hospitals [were they treat diseases]. We can fight against AIDS. We can build a new city for 60 thousand dollar. We can do such very good things of this money. It’s incredible how they [wise use] every year more and more the people do not think about budget to give to people, to [fit], to make a very heavy situation for victims of nature catastrophe or something. The private organisations, the private people take it from their own pocket money to help catastrophe victims, you know. This is private initiative, and government state people give thousand billions for war. It’s not normal. This must be changed. It must be changed because it is so insane when we have money for a war and cannot feed the poor. It is some disbalance which brings our world into a catastrophe. We have this critical crucial point in our civilisation. We keep down and it all breaks only because people cannot think. People make the problem. People’s ego makes this. It’s a lack of wisdom of love.
I am not a politician, but I think there is [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I am not a politician, but I think there is actually nothing new in the world, and politicians and interested circles act according to a principle “share and reign”. There would be no peace in the Middle East till some interested groups of people like businessmen and politicians wouldn’t be stopped, who share power and treasures of the earth and use labour and energetic potential of people. If someone does not stop them, they will continue to achieve what they want. Those people act only to pursue their own interests. They do not see, or they actually don’t care about the problems, about which worries a great mass of all people in the Middle East. Here, at the “round table” I saw two men from two different enemy countries Lebanon and Iraq; they shook hands and meant “we have nothing against each other”. Yet thousand of deaths, thousands of victims on both sides give an argument for a new escalation. And I think it is time to break, because someone should stop this insanity. We can only hope that the mental and moral potential of the mankind could do it. It is possible to stop it only if we put all our voices together.
People do this, they did it in history. A [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: People do this, they did it in history. A lot of people gave their voices against Vietnam wars, and the revolt stop of America “stop the war”. And there are a lot of other cases. There is a lot of people were not inert and so “I don’t care, it doesn’t touch me, my life is ok, and I have everything: food, a house, a happy life. Why should I trouble myself and go and speak about thousands of burned or killed people or children. I have my quiet life. People should care about their spiritual development; they must grow in their minds and souls. And if everybody gives his voice for freedom [peace], there would be no wars at all. People cannot stay indifferent. We all are parts of a whole. We should understand this, and with this understanding go and give our voices against war. And the government has to stop the wars.
Respect is one of the main aspects of human [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Respect is one of the main aspects of human education, because if we let a person know, that we respect him or her, that we feel proud about his existence as a personality, if we let him know, how unique his birth, his short stay on the huge Earth, his potential to create something are, it could give meaning to this person’s life. Nowadays a considerable percent of people suffer from depressions and this happens in the developed countries above all. Apparently they have everything, why should they be depressive? They have no self respect. No self respect, no love to themselves. There are many kinds of respect. I have many friends, who help people in Africa, India, Bangladesh, and they all say that the most important thing is to give a person this feeling of the self respect. It gives him power to act, to develop, and to create new things. This is a very important aspect, and that is why it entered into a Declaration of Human Rights. The most important thing is respect, independent on personal origins, convictions, religions or skin colours. When we learn to respect other people and ourself, then a wonderful world is going to be discovered, where we can live, where there would be hope, that we would survive as civilization.
This depends on people and government, who [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This depends on people and government, who have taken over and unfortunately are interested in the fact that there are poor people, because most of countries which are members of G8 – America, Europe – produce much more products per head than Africa for instance, where food gets distributed unequally. There is such a term as biological «footprint», which means, that people consume much more than they really need to and their biological print is much bigger than necessary. I think that all depends on people’s conscience, and unfortunately it didn’t reach yet that level, when they understand, that we all are human and we are dependent on each other. And human compassion, and human consciousness they have not reached a stage to understand, that if they hunger, if someone is hungering, this means their soul is hungering too. It is not a matter of Africa or India or other countries not producing enough products to nourish their population. The problem is that these products get withdrawn from there, they get distributed unequal.
Of course, because the time is coming, [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Of course, because the time is coming, because now we have this opposition between America, European countries, Russia, China, and India. We broke new cracks like in the book of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. He writes about baobabs: when they are grown up, they break the planet. We are with our [groups] like these baobabs. We must have our own government. Of course we can live in our houses, countries our social structures and have people who rule or organise this. But we must have a global government which would look from the top, like astronauts look from the space on our Earth and see how small and precious it is. And when they come back their minds are changed. People, who have had a clinical death and has almost been gone out of their bodies, may be having seen the Earth, how precious and fragile is our life, our security. To understand this we must build this government, where people would give their voices and their advices how to save our civilisation, not only our village, town, community or country, but the whole Earth. We must think about this. The time is [reigning], and we have such a situation, that it might be too late. And we live on it. And after this if we don’t do this, we wouldn’t have questions to answer, because there would be no civilisation at all.
This is true. The modern economic system is [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This is true. The modern economic system is unfortunately corrupt, and it grows to an absurd limit. In clowning they call it „buffoonery”, when a little comb turns into one which is three meters long. We are arriving at absurdity, at the last border of that absurdity, which we have been practised and cultivated for centuries, because concentration of property and of economical resources refers to a small group of people: Eight most powerful countries have concentrated 80 percent of economical production. These 8 countries come to only 25 percent of the whole world population. The rest population gets only 20 percent of the economic resources and product distribution. It is extremely unfair, but I believe that we would come to understand this injustice, and that’s why in future there would be such a planetary government which would be represented by persons with a progressive and not an obsolete self-awareness. I think that we achieved a lot concerning technological progress, a lot possibilities of technics in the last century, but we do not really proceeded.
They all speak about terrorism and its [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: They all speak about terrorism and its danger, as about a group of cruel and bloodthirsty people. In reality these people are products, children born of a system. If all people on Earth could feel respect and become their share of dignity, if the mankind, all countries, the society would have preserved a sense of dignity, if all people would care problems with great attention, there would be no terrorism. Of course, when men come to a foreign country or other people’s territory to conquer, and then those people try to defend and liberate their land. First of all they fight for their freedom, the possibility to continue their lives, for their inner, moral and physical freedom. And in this case it would be a just war, yet it is very difficult to say, that a war can be fair. Every war is unjust. If only causes of wars and terrorism could be wiped out! All the causes are here [in our minds]; it is a result of a work done by few people who wanted to seize control and are interested in power.
It is the fact; I don’t think it is [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It is the fact; I don’t think it is tolerated. It is very tragic, because children and women, civilian people die. So many people, children die. We can think about minefields and stunted children, whose life has been ruined by the war, or about victims of a chemical war, of terrorism, or about children of Beslan, killed on their first day in the school, when many of them came with flowers for the first time to discover a new world. To kill those lives is terrible, inadmissible! Yet some groups do a war in the war and destroy social and political structures from within. But actually it is a political fight of “kings”, and people suffer. Here we speak about civilians, but soldiers, young boys eighteen, or nineteen years old are civilians too. There are wars in Africa, where children are given arms and sent to fight. They are civilian victims too. They are not soldiers; they are trained to be machines, predators. But they are still human beings. It is another experience, and there are organisations which work with such children, who are victims of this crime trained to kill and to be child-soldiers. And psychologists work with it. They show that they are just normal children being toys in hands of manipulation oriented people.
The time of that escalation, of the threat [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: The time of that escalation, of the threat of one’s neighbour, has gone. WE have to understand, that we depends on each other, and that we should unite, to create an absolutely new universal system. We cannot lock ourselves in our own countries. Patriotism is a beautiful word. We should be patriots of our Earth, otherwise we wouldn’t survive. We cannot be so called „home patriots“and think „My house, my family is better“. It is good to be proud of your place, your country. I am proud of my country, I love it very much, and it is independent what way of errors, what times it goes through. I love my country, yet I understand that a success and happiness of people of my country depends on their possibilities to be free, develop, take part on universal human problems, because the time has come to do this, and we cannot care only about local problems. We cannot close our eyes and hide heads in the sand like ostriches. That time is in the past. For the universal safety... To sacrifice liberty for the general safety is a legitimate, but an absurd question, because our safety does not depend on how many arms or the bombs we are going to produce, because thus we are creating the big gunpowder drum, and we collect those means which would destroy our planet, our civilisation. And if it happens there would be no liberty and nothing at all what they could share.
Capitalism is not democracy. You cannot mix [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Capitalism is not democracy. You cannot mix it up. A lot of capitalistic countries do so called democratic politics. But this is not politic democracy. Intelligent people understand this. And in the countries where the politic regime is a dictatorship or monarchy or another system, can make their own politics with newspapers, media, which support it. And they build up a picture of an enemy. I am Russian, I grew up in the time of the Cold War, at the end of it, thank God, but it was long enough. And I was in North Korea, it’s a totalitarian regime, and it is much crazier, as a clown I would call it a buffoonery, as Stalin’s regime, that his private cult. And there is a cult of Kim Il-Sung which is more idiotic, more buffoonery. And they built a very dangerous picture of capitalism and democracy in North Korea. Of course, every political structure has a weak point, and we are observing it through a big magnifying glass, which magnifies the weak point a thousand times, and we show it to the people. And people were not educated. We live now in another time, we have computers, and we can even do a click and see what is going on there. We can become this […]. When people in China for example, [Google make this people who have a big interest in news, make this not possible]. What is this? We are civilized people, but we do this. And so big concerns help not a capitalistic country, but they support a regime. It is absurd.
The first question is human egoism. To [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: The first question is human egoism. To modify economical system you have to change a human being. I think, that if you can change the self-reflection, which many people are doing nowadays and many organizations, nongovernmental organizations are engaged in this problem, because it is about rethinking those rules, which the 20th century has given birth to, a technological century, a century, when we thought, that machines, developement, technology are the progress of the mankind, that it could replace human spirits, and human intelligence, and human heart. Unfortunately it is not the case, because information is not wisdom. Wisdom is a term, when knowledge and experience go together with heart and feelings, emotions. When a man takes a decision not calculating, what is the most lucrative thing at the moment, but when he thinks, what consequences some actions would cause. They should not satisfy themselves with moments of a gain, when one can conquer, possess, get much more money and products than someone else and therefore become powerful, but think about what is going to happen as the consequence, how many people would suffer from that decision, if the environment could be damaged. Industry produces a lot of unnecessary products.
Yes, it is possible. I have considerable [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes, it is possible. I have considerable experience in it, I have many friends creating and living in communities. I think that this is the future, these small social communities, families. WE have to understand, that the whole world is a single family, that we are organisms of the whole, and when we hurt someone on a one side of a planet, we hurt ourselves. We should feel that. When we will feel it, we will act in a completely different way. Yet a person is born and lives in a family, and the family grows. He lives in a country, in a village, or in a town, he goes to school. There is some collective, a circle of friends. And the milieu is very important for education and development of a human being. And people have to learn not to be parasitic to a state and not to say that someone has to do this or that, and then they unite in a society, in a community with common interests. And in the future it happens. They would try to do a great contribution in their small community, because it is an organism. A human being cannot live alone in space, whether he would live in a castle or in a hut, he cannot be alone. He has to become emotions, some positive and even some negative experience from outside and share it with his colleges, friends, and family. And this starts and continues, as I already said, in a family, in a group. And when a person starts to feel social responsibility for what happens in a small formation, he grows out of it and feels responsibility in a bigger dimension, in a global dimension. This is a new stage of human development.
Nowadays it happens more often that women [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Nowadays it happens more often that women become positions of managers and leaders. They are strong women. There are many of them, also in Russia now the mayor of St Petersburg is an active, attractive, intelligent, educated woman. I have many friends like [Assata/Hafsata Biola] and the Nigerian activist Bibi Russel. Women have a great potential. They have a great inner emotional intuition. Woman gives life, she cannot be a killer, this is against the nature, and she is mother. She thinks and tries to act in a way which would keep and develop, teach and improve that unity, and it does not matter whether she is a leader of a state, or is managing some huge organisation or system. I think, it was false, that men had a dominant role in previous centuries and created a number of rules, why a woman couldn’t occupy a leading position. I have my experience too. I am a woman, and I have a high position. Journalists call me “the queen of clowns”. It is a hard profession, and to achieve results is not easy. That’s why it is a difficult question. It is difficult to respond.
I don’t find the Darwin’s theory very [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I don’t find the Darwin’s theory very appealing, because Social Darwinism brought us into the situation which we have now. Social Darwinism is the concept that man is living according to the laws of nature, this means, that the strongest win, who has the strongest claws, teeth and so on. But in fact I think that the core of a human being is of some different kind. Of course it origins from nature, and in the nature not always the strongest are those who win, that is not quite the right point of view. And I believe that people absolutely didn’t understand right Darwin. They act from the position of power, and they try to take every opportunity, and they have been trying centuries long to use this theory and to act with principles of power. Europeans and generally white people had weapons, captured territories, enslaved African and other countries, conquered colonies. They robbed treasures of those countries, where they governed, where they reigned, and were not interested in the intellectual development. They were content with everything in Africa and other colonial countries staying on the same level of development as when they conquered it. They gave glass necklaces in exchange for a lot of treasures. This is “the theory of glass necklaces”.
I think it is time when civil and apolitical [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think it is time when civil and apolitical organisations are gaining more and more influence. It is my opinion, because I am an artist, and artists always create their own worlds which always remain open. It is not an elitist group. A picture of an inspired artist moves millions of people and gives them cause for thought, think of Leonardo da Vinci, or of such great genius as Michelangelo and of millions of poets who created cultures…This are organisations of creative people, and I think that every person has a creative bent and has a great potential. We should create social structures which wouldn’t depend on politics. And with their help we can influence the state, because it is a great potential power. And as soon as people realise this, they start to come together and let politicians hear their voices like it used to be in ancient Roman times on public places. At the time I worked in Latin America I was impressed how many Latin Americans there are who have a developed sense of freedom and intellectuality. They often come together to a place and discuss different topics. It’s not a voice of a single man who call on people for a political idea or some political goals, and the rest of them don't stay and listen like a flock of sheep, but it is a dialog of human beings each of them expressing his opinion. And they cannot ignore this opinion. It’s up to us if we make sheep of us, or if we follow the fashion in cloths, food or politics. A human being is a high organized creature, and if he would realise it and grow in his self-organization, and go to the communication level to come together with others, he would be able to do a cultural, non-silent, but cultural, artistic revolution, so to speak, and to let a government, which is only a group of people and we should keep it in mind, act in the way chosen by the majority of people who wants nations and Earth to live on.
Yes of course, it is one of liberties [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes of course, it is one of liberties because it doesn’t depend on any place. I have been worked in many countries of the world and have been everywhere. I meet people so I can see differences not out of books but from my own example, from my own experience how different and how at the same time similar people are. They all have wishes, or one single human dream to live, to be happy and to be loved, to be able…because art always unite people and artists are considered people cosmopolites and people with no denominational ties. And it is not the only reason. They move because they are free-minded. People put themselves in chains on their own; they chain up themselves to prejudices. I don’t include those examples when someone is locked up by force, but I am firmly convinced that a man being imposes limits of religious, political prejudices; of prejudices about people on himself and in his […] he bounds himself. And nowadays when a lot of people suffer from depression merely because they feel lonely because they cannot get out; they cannot do it. If such a man would move from Japan to America or India nothing would change because he is self contained. Freedom of movement freedom to choose a place for living is one of very positive liberties. But I convinced that first of all a man has to free himself from his own chains and to look around and rethink his inner being. Yet it’s wonderful. Our world is so multiple with a great diversity of cultures and so rich for all sensations: for sense of smell, sense of touch and for eyes there are so many colours, flowers and colours, so many nuances, and a man who have got a possibility of movement could feel all this differences on his own experience. He would understand the idleness of his egoistic necessities.
It’s a very interesting question because [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It’s a very interesting question because traditionally wealth has always been concentrated in hands of few people. It used to be this way times ago, because of a “law”, according to which the richest can control other people. This is a weapon of control, of the economic control. For example, when powerful countries want to change some political regime, or when they want to impose their views, principles and their political ways on other countries, then they create such an embargo as they did on Cuba or in other places trying to change a political regime. I believe that in this our century governmental systems of countries would change, because we would be forced to change our ways of thinking, otherwise we will get into a catastrophe. And after the change we would arrive at a point to distribute material treasures humanly and fairly. This doesn’t mean communism and that everybody should get the same quantity of goods, but people should get the necessary equivalent of food, medical care and education.
It is not only a question about African. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It is not only a question about African. It’s about slavery. …..What is not the world as slavery? The world would probably have found a different way of development. It would have become much better. We wouldn’t have such a present situation, if not only African slavery, but also slavery of other nationalities, like slavery by the Romans, medieval slavery, slavery in Russia, India and so on never existed at all. If there would be no slavery, people would have created perhaps a better culture, a potential, emotional, moral stratum based on rights and rules of a higher order. We would have come to a civilisation of a higher order, not to that civilisation of technology and technique, but to a moral one, because slavery has shifted for many years and many centuries the growth of human consciousness. An age long habit to practice pressure of one personality on another, to use other people, to suppress them has intruded itself into our minds, hearts, bodies, and we cannot get rid of it. We should squeeze a slave out of us. Former slaves…Or former slave owners thought they were the rulers, but they were also slaves, and may be more than their slaves. And I think when we have understood this; we would be ashamed for this.
[It mihgt become necessary], when a law [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: [It mihgt become necessary], when a law becomes obsolete, because laws are made by people, and people can often be mistaken. In recent times they pass a lot of laws, and I come from a country where currency and laws change like gloves in our circus performance, in which a woman puts her hands in pockets and takes out different gloves every time: blue coloured, red or yellow coloured gloves. In our country laws change as quickly. But there are moral, ethical, universal laws which cannot change. There are many absurd laws. As I am a clown, I could make up a whole performance program about false, absolutely stupid or ineffective laws. As a Russian proverb says, “A law is like a pile: you cannot pass through, but you can go around”. Many people use this principle. I think the most important laws are those of our hearts, which means ethical laws. And I think, there should be created such an organization as a world government, a world council, which would create ethical laws, because many of ethical laws helped some civilizations to survive in the past, and there were many state-managed laws which contributed to the destruction of some other civilizations. That is about laws. Instead of three minutes one could speak to this subject three years, or his entire life. A law, which is made by human beings, should be approved by a moral law, which is also made by human beings.
I only want to say, that people cannot judge [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I only want to say, that people cannot judge other people because of their skin colour, or eyes or nose colour, or cloths, or religion or political views, because it is not important. Religious and political views are like cloths. A human being grows. We have many examples that people can change their religion, and not because they are traitors. In the former Soviet Union it was considered a betrayal of the homeland, if you moved to another country and changed your nationality. They considered it a crime against the home country. As I was in Latina America, we had such a case. Some artist went to the American embassy and asked an asylum. Then many journalists asked me, what I thought about it. I answered: “Imagine, you lived in Paris or in London and then want to move to Turkey. Would they call you a traitor? Of course, no.“ There is no betrayal in that, but it is freedom. We have to respect personal freedom. Personal freedom means thinking and feeling in a way one consider a necessary way. When you take a look at religions, there is no difference between them. They bring a great variety into our world and can only enrich us, develop us culturally; this is a variety of convictions. Life would be boring and impossible if everybody would think the same, then people would wear a kind of a uniform. We have many examples how it happened in some countries.
At the moment we have no better system [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: At the moment we have no better system better than the democracy. We must only bring democracy to a new level, make it free from all heavy understandings of democracy. Democracy means freedom of thinking, feeling, freedom to make your life, you know. Democracy is a wonderful political structure. A question is, what it means for us. In civilized countries democracy is becoming heavy, deformed formes. It isn't understood in the right way. May be a new system should be created, which would be called a global, wolrdwide democracy of the developed consciousness, a democracy of a higher mind. I think, that it lies not on a word itself, how do you call it, because nowadays democracy is one of the most positive structures. Of course, with time another social structure could be created, which would be based on a larger possibility, on a great personal freedom.
There are no holy wars. It is impossible. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: There are no holy wars. It is impossible. These two terms are incompatible. The Creator gave no right for it, we have no right to kill other people, because every man, every woman, every child is a creation, is a wonder given by the nature, by Creator. We have no right to kill them. And there are neither religious nor political, no other reasons like those considering territory interests which could justify wars. He gave us no right to have a war. What does a term „a just war“mean? I just told about it. Of course, if a nation, a country defends its sovereignty and rights to live in a way it consider the right way, and not in a way imposed from outside, then it would be a just war. If exterior people come and impose their ideology, their politics, or fight for their personal interests, this could be justified with no arguments. Military intervention into other people’s territory independent of justifying reasons cannot be just. We have to learn from history. We have been lived for so many centuries, and everything has already happened, so we only should look back on it. It was an age-long war: like crusades, Wars of the Roses... Were they just wars? There is no just and no holy war. These two terms are incompatible.
Yes, it exists, and nowadays it is likely to [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes, it exists, and nowadays it is likely to be possible. In our global communication and on-line information time it is possible. We only should put together our energy, vote, restructure our consciousness, and bring it to a new level. And then it would be possible. I always think about Gandhi’s resistance. It is possible if people of the Earth would unite and vote for it. It is possible, because America is a big, strong, well developed country, because it often followed the way of wise reforms, which brought it to its flourish. Yet material and financial strength doesn’t always mean moral strength. In America there are also many positive minded people who think over their human determination on the Earth. A clown and therefore a very optimistic person as I am, I believe that with their help as well as with help of people from outside we could succeed to prevent the catastrophe. Besides, they couldn’t let people in ignorance or foolish them any more. A great man said once, “you can lie either to a small group of people for a long time or to masses of people for a while”. I think that a while of lying to a great mass of people is passing by. And I hope so. I have many American friends who fight for it, like Jonathan Granoff who fights against war, and they communicate their ideas to other people and would do everything to give the world a possibility to go without further victims, and without war.
It is very interesting. America is the first [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It is very interesting. America is the first creator of the terror groups, and then they became problems with terror groups of Al-Qaeda which were fighting on the other side then. Then there is one more problem. People should think before they start aggression, because every stick has two ends. And the next time you can get it beating your own head. It is like a sharp sword. I think that political structures which are oriented towards power as well as arms producers and dealers profit on terrorism. It is a dirty play in which actually only few people have their interests in comparison with masses of people living on the Earth. Yet the problem of masses is that they are passive. They do not feel. They are not strong enough to realise, that everybody is able to act. Even a butterfly, which with a single beat of wings can change the climate and cause a storm on the other side of the planet, can do something. Everybody can do something. And why people with predatory interests who strive for power have a strong emotional potential and are capable to reach their goals? Humane people are passive. They shouldn’t be passive, but as active and interested in consequences as self-interested people. Of course, it is a great counterweight because there are thousand times more people on the Earth who want to live on and to bring up their children in peace. Everybody should think,”And what depends on me?”
Yes, of course. (It’s a globalization time. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes, of course. (It’s a globalization time. It’s a big concern have big power, because they have big big money. But I think it is a ratio, it is a process, and when people who working at concern begin change your mind, go to a new level in consciousness, begin thinking, because in concern are working simple people. They must think and must do something to change politic from concerns. We need a lot of power, a lot of initiative to change the politic of concern. ) I has been born in Siberia for example, and my country is Russia. Now we have changed the political system, because it used to be socialistic country and now it is a capitalistic one, and it is developing itself according to principles of any other capitalistic country in the world. It’s a globalization time, big concerns exercise considerable power. They practically control politicians, because economical resources, fuel are concentrated in hands of concerns, which influence politics, because people and government become corrupt too. It is possible to buy everything. I think, the only way out of it would be the change of our self-reflection. We have to change our self-reflection; otherwise we would end in chaos and destructiveness.
This is what I have told about in the [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This is what I have told about in the previous answer. Courage means to raise your voice in a critical situation, to rise up, because every crisis is a renovation and a way up to a new level. A situation, or the nature, or the Creator brings people into a challenge to show them a new level of soul-understanding. And the most interesting fact is that I could name thousands of mentally strong people: Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, Gandhi and so on, and their spirits could be reinforced just through obstacles. And they didn’t stop if they sometimes burned their fingers. If they did, it would be like if a little child burned his fingers on the oven and would never use fire again. Those people were not like a Russian fairy-tail character who burned a finger and when someone told him to spit on it, he spited in his hot soup. A human being can surmount many difficulties thanks to his strong mind. And this is courage. Courage means civil courage, when people raise their voices for peace, for their convictions despite personal disadvantages. It is wonderful. They call it heroism, and it has been praised since the beginning of the civilisation. This is the daringness of the braves. “We sing a song to the madness of daring!” [Maxim Gorky. Song of the Falcon] Such people are unique. They are “Human Beings” written with a capital letter, who have a full right to carry this name. They were crucified, put in prison but we still pronounce [their names] and realise [audio ends].
Why they consider it? It is not considered [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Why they consider it? It is not considered more dangerous, because the bomb is only an object, which is used by people, politicians and militarists. The bomb is only a dead object, and the most dangerous is the man. This is a dangerous toy in hands of politicians. I don’t know, only a small group of people can believe that an Iraqi bomb is more dangerous than an American one. This is what propaganda does, what particular circles, newspapers, magazines say, which are interested in political success of America or England, in the dominance, so to speak, of the great civilized white world over other countries. It is possible, to justify every violence. People have a tongue to tell lies. Yet I believe that many thousands of people realise that it is a lie, and that the bomb in America and France or other countries is as dangerous as the bomb in Iraq. The atom, which was discovered by a man for a benefit of human beings, is a toy in the hands of fools, who think that they can get more power with it. But in reality they can let the ship explode on which they sail. It is very dangerous.
Of course, you can skip over or ignore a [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Of course, you can skip over or ignore a law. In dictatorships international law is ignored, because a dictatorial system locks a country, it has closed politics and it is not interested in it. Yet people possess a great potential of power even though. I have many examples, of our country, which used to be closed in times of the Cold War, when scientist were disliked by the government as dissidents, people with different way of thinking who didn’t support the regime. Of course, international human rights have been never applied to their cases. But many friends and like-minded people raised their voices for those, who were put in prison because of their political views, they went to an international level and achieved the goal. It depends on the energy; often we ourselves are to blame for many things because we are inert. We try something, may be we burn a hand on it and do not try again saying that it isn’t possible. A man is a creation who is capable to do everything. He is like god, if you may use the word, because he is a part of a creator. And he can do everything. Human energy and strength is immense. We use only a part of it, because we are too material and created material laws. Our science has been occupied for a long time with physical needs of a human body. It was a great mistake, because it developed into different direction as religion and materialised everything. Our bodies are only cloths, and even physical needs should be satisfied, it will be still just cloth, and the potential energy is actually our spirit. And we are able to demand, to raise a voice, to achieve something, and to do a lot.
Humanity must [put an] end the cycle of [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Humanity must [put an] end the cycle of violence and revenge and achieve reconciliation. Sure now in the whole world in thousand places there are wars. And it is all about politics. Wars and politics: You can put an equal’s sight between them. It’s a crazy problem because one government has and wants to have more power than another. With war they put under pressure nations, cities, countries. These are horrible things. It’s horrible because it is insane and crazy that people do it. In my country people have a war, may be not always using weapons like guns, but also with guns like the war in Chechnya because of its autonomy. But we have also economical wars, which became political wars too. We must think about it, and I think it is a possibility for all humanity to raise its voices against war. A lot of people do this. But more people should do it because nobody wants to have a war. It is a very painful subject for me. When I see, or realise, how many people die every minute. In this very moment while we are sitting here, thousands of people, children are dying from explosions or could be killed some other way. we have to stop it.
Cheap products or imitations or counterfeit [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Cheap products or imitations or counterfeit products: it’s a monster born by a wrong social system. Because these are cheap things. People buying imitations and counterfeits have of course an interest, because there are many worldwide known brands like Versace etc. And in principle they produce and work on them in factories in Bangladesh or China or India. But people who buy those products should think about what their price means. Of course people would like to buy cheaper products. Here they find double advantage: they have a brand like a Rolex watch for 2 dollars. You can buy it in Moscow on the Red Square or in other countries, for 2 dollars. The watch would be quite the same, with a printed number, so you couldn’t distinguish it from the original. But the matter is the price of this “cheap” and at the same time “expensive” product. People who produce it work in factories in China or India, and in Bangladesh, Thailand and earn perhaps only 20-30 dollars monthly. It is the possibility for them to provide families. It is a wrong, deformed situation. Let us think about why labourers in Bolivia working in the copper mines earn not enough money to buy bread.
Hided forms of colonialism continue to [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Hided forms of colonialism continue to exist, may be, because there are many countries such as India, which is not a colony any more, it is independent. Yet many concerns set up their firms on its territory and actually use child and woman labour as cheap labour while pretending to be peacemakers and benefactors. They even do not give people any fair possibility or money instead. They set it well out. They pay people just enough to support their livelihood which stays in a very poor condition, and even so those salaries aren’t often enough. They do not care to provide any chances or means for labourers’ education, of course not, because it would be risky. If those people, children would get a chance for education, they would become clever and stop working for someone else. They would be interested in the development of their country, their families, in their own growth. I cannot understand why these things happen. A human being is an estimable potential, and those men who use other people’s energy follow an ancient, primitive, wild way, they act like vampires. They are vampires. They use other people’s energy and power for their economic interests to enjoy their wealth. And many concerns which produce cloth, food, other products, let thousands and thousands of people in developing countries work for them. It is not a version of colonialism; it is a real colonialism, which is covered a little with fine-sounding words, but still remains to be colonialism.
Freedom is he greatest and the best [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Freedom is he greatest and the best principle, the best condition for a human personality to develop. It is one of the most important principles of human existence: freedom of thought, freedom to act according to one’s consciousness. The only aspect is that we shouldn’t restrict freedom, because a human being is able to feel free, even if you put him in prison. It shouldn’t happen, of course. There shouldn’t be any disturbing factors which could limit physical freedom as well as possibilities to move freely, to take decisions, or to exercise. There is freedom of spirit, which means mental freedom. I enjoy freedom very much and my profession as clown gave me a possibility to be free all my life, independent from the political system of my home country, or may be, just because of it. To be free to move, express your opinions, do what you like, to develop, to get education – there are millions of liberties, but they all mean the liberty of human existence. It depends on how they perceive freedom they can misuse it for humiliating or killing other people and still consider it liberty, but it is not, because doing so they create their own barriers and set limits. A man is free, only if his spirit is free. Thoughts and feeling are completely free just when we think freedom over and go to a new level of development and use our liberty to make people feeling good. It is freedom to understand that we all depend on each other, that we are bound together. So only with the mature understanding that we depend on every decision and on every human being we are free.
A man decides it himself. Of course there [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: A man decides it himself. Of course there are many different political (structures): We have police, army which imposes limits and so to speak restricts people’s freedom and to carry out that is unwanted for other people. But we are coming closer to the situation when these limits should be put by a person himself. And to achieve this we should permit everybody, every personality to widen his horizon, to develop his soul and this is possible not only with a lot of information to which we have unlimited access today. We should develop this soul and I know million of people. They are excellent artists and religious authorities and other people among them. I am atheist but I studied religions, all world religions. And in all world religions – Buddha, Jesus and Krishna and other religious leaders expressed one single idea which is the main golden principle of mankind: to treat other people and nature in the way one want to be treated oneself. And observing your moral principles, your moral convictions your behaviour through this prism and this lens you understand where is the borderline between your freedom, your unlimited liberty of mind, creativity and imagination and where other freedom of some other personality starts because you have to leave other personality the same unlimited freedom which you enjoy yourself. And reflecting about this question through this prism you can always find…a personality can always find in this freedom unlimited frontiers.
It is an interesting question, because I [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It is an interesting question, because I have a lot to do with pedagogy. I studied for a director. I love children very much, I work as a clown, and I really love children. I have an experience that children are naturally very curious. And the best education, as teachers notice more and more, the best start for education is a family. Love is their teacher there and they learn to love. I listened to an uncle from New Zeeland who told me how his grandmother educated him. She took him to the forest, they went with him there. They walked two days without speaking a lot, and when they arrived, she told him stories. He understood this, because as a child he got an experience, he looked around, he worked through it himself. He got some information. Education is a family issue. Nowadays our system unfortunately steals time. We replace education in families with filling up with knowledge in schools. And human organism rejects unnecessary information, because nature is wise. It creates an allergic process. I think about my school education and those great books of great classics which I read and reread with pleasure now, which give me discoveries of goodness, love and peace etc. and which we hated in school. Our educational system is deformed as well, because people are capable to go away from the reality. When too specialized, they loose a horizon. They cannot look around; they do not see the core. They forget about cause and effect, forgetting that the principle of education itself is to teach how to learn. Not only to teach something, but to teach how to learn, and this means to alternate, to get abilities, to get an instrument. That means to teach surviving. Why a person needs education? He needs it to continue to live in the society, among people. It is a most important educational stage.
This is an absolutely wrong idea. I think if [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This is an absolutely wrong idea. I think if people could understand it and give a possibility of development to any country, any nationality, and all the people living on Earth independent from what nationality or society they belong to, the planet would be much more diversified and reach. They used people as “labour cattle”, as machines, masses, without they let them develop, because every country and all cultures are such a huge cultural potential. In every culture, in every nationality there is such a great diversity. If people could care about this cultural potential, because in every tribe, every social organization, and every small and big state there is a lot of wisdom and this helps a particular nationality, a particular clan to survive, to use this moral, ethical, physical, intellectual potential of every person. If it would happen, it would be fantastic, and I hope in the future it would, it should come to that, and it would be some kind of a fantastic development of civilization, since our whole treasure is a human being himself, it is a person with his absolutely unique way, his unique ability. And develop a person, give him a possibility of education, give him a possibility to act independent, give him a weapon of knowledge and wisdom…
Every life is unique, whether it is human [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Every life is unique, whether it is human life or life of animals and plants. A human life is unique, because every human being is a wonderful world in its variety. I think the fact, that people kill other people, is abnormal and crazy. How is it possible? Unfortunately, it happens everywhere in the world; every day, every minute people kill and die. There are actually many kinds of murders. There are murders through mines and weapons or terrorist actions. And there is a slow killing through poverty, humiliation, or oblivion, or discrimination, - all this sorts of murders, which could hurt more than destruction of the body. We live in a body, but his death is not actually our death. And a murder of a human spirit is the most dangerous and repugnant one. Unfortunately it happens. And I think we all came here to prevent this. There are fantastic, wonderful people here, like Jonathan Granoff who is engaged in the disarmament problem and does a lot to bring leaders of different countries together so that they could feel, that there is an opposition. He brings through people’s ideas. And if critical masses of people who are against the war come together, may be there would be not as much of wars.
It’s a very interesting question, because I [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It’s a very interesting question, because I have a lot of friends around the world. I know a wonderful women, my friend Bibi Russel and other men and women who are engaged in helping people. But “help” is just a complicated word, because „charity“ is not a real help. Help is what Bibi Russel does. She is one of initiators of [Malcolm] Donation. People who become a small credit, become more than that. Besides they get a great possibility to develop their capacities. They could get material, equipment and produce, start their business. Usually these people are women, who get this small credit, then they grow vegetables and sell them, earning a bit more money. They open some shops and care about quality: they produce something. Here there is the hope concerning people who can start a proper initiative. And this fact is very important, because it is so called self-help and not a sort of parasitism, and therefore there is a great hope. It is of a great importance.
In many countries religion and social [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: In many countries religion and social conditions, social organisation put women into a very unfavourable situation. A woman, I believe, is the most important, the main link in life as a mother who gives birth to a child, who brings up children. Yet women’s labour and educational process as well aren’t thought through in today’s world, because family had a great importance in former times. Children grew up in families, from generation to generation brought up by mothers, because their father should care about how to provide the family with food, he was a hunter who brought the prey home, while women were busy caring for the house and looking after children. In the present world bringing children up is pushed into the background, it is given up to different organisations like nursery schools, kinder-gardens, schools, ? to a million of organisations, because women have to work. Yet women’s labour isn’t paid as men’s. In comparison with men are women in an unequal position. In Africa, for instance, there are many tribes, plantations, and the main provider there is a woman, because she cultivates the fields. She plants corn, which provides food for the family. She sells corn to the government for unfavourable prices. Yet firms are more interested in coffee, for example, because this business is more profitable, more gainful. And it [the government] educates men, teaches them growing coffee. And field territories get lost; men are engaged in producing coffee, so women cannot feed their families, because after earning money with coffee men drink alcohol.
For this question Gandhi gives the answer. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: For this question Gandhi gives the answer. We can remember. It is the question from India. He gave the right answer for this question. They don’t make a war [and] this is revolution, still a revolution. He make a big big influence on the India became his freedom, his sovereignty while he has a very intelligent leader. He was a wise man, he was clown too, I think. You cannot fight against wrong things. When you are fighting with guns, with arms, you loose yourself because you become exactly so aggressive, looks like your opposite site. We have a very wonderful writer, it is Eugeny Schwarz and he writes [inaudible] [fair] story, its name is “Drache” (“Dragon”). It is one story about who is fighting against Drache. He became (turned to) with arms a dragon himself. This act of kill another people it can never be positive. Some wish to kill is not positive. Of course the people can use their own intellectual potential, their own energy. And I know a lot, thousands and thousands of people who fight but not with arms, with their intellect, it is a fighting in education, it is a fighting for lives of a lot of people, they are fighting for moral health of nations. This thousand people do this and with big big big success. Use, more use wisdom of love, and you are never wrong when you are not doing for other people things you don’t like they do for yourself. Bring the love and you become the love. Bring this patience and you become respect. Bring respect from another people and you become respect. It is all have a communication.
I want to, I want that it disappears, the [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I want to, I want that it disappears, the narcotic. The end of question is another thing. Yes, sure, it’s a big problem about connection with people because people are disconnecting mentally. But I want this to disappear. Because there are not only adult people who want to have a narcotic, and understand what this means, but children in the school, who just start to learn, how to live, and it’s criminal, that other people give them this. Because this way this child begins to understand that there is a connection between other people. He starts in the early age, with his family, with his mother, and if his mother is a young one, she may become a narcotic too, you know. [But let that] disappear, and I can say this day and night, 24 hours. It’s a big part of a problem which would disappear too. Another question is about communicating, about people who must go up into their consciousness, looking for their possibilities for connection other people. Of course, these two questions depend on each other, but at the same time they are two different things, because when I see about tragedy, about narcotic, about criminal wars, about children… Now in Russia we didn’t have narcotics for a long time, of cause, we drink vodka a lot, but we…
First of all, the big civilisation creates [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: First of all, the big civilisation creates this illness. And secondly, it is on our consciousness. We must help, but we must help not only with medicine, - of course it is very important to create a new medicine for this illness to safe lives, - but we should invest a lot of energy, money and love for propaganda to achieve a new way of living. AIDS is not only a illness of a body, but also it is illness of a soul. People who say “we are healthy, we do not have this illness”…It is such an ill question than I am confused what language I should speak. AIDS is spreading out, because in many African countries they have wars, rape women, people live in such appalling conditions , they are so ignorant, that they even do not know how dangerous it is. A lot of money, funds are needed for their education, to give them information how to avoid this illness, how not to get it. I would say, AIDS is the illness of conscience, because it is about a human being who should change and think over his ethical norms.
I think there are a lot of good people who [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think there are a lot of good people who could be my heroes. I appreciate Mahatma Gandhi. I appreciate Martin Luther King. I appreciate a lot of our heroes. We have many thousands of well-known and unknown people who make our life better and who stand for their ideals. I am thinking about one hero such as Prometheus who brought people light. Some people can say he brought fire but he brought fire as light and warmth. There are a lot of heroes in our life. But we must be able to orientate ourselves because heroes show us the way. Of course, it's very important to have some ideals and follow these ideals but we must find also our own way in the life because there are a lot of different ways. My hero is Sophocles. He was a wonderful man and a great philosopher. My hero is Shakespear. My hero is Chekhov because he knew so much about human soul and it's most important thing. I like and appreciate a big artist of Middle Ages Michelangelo. He was a genius, you know. A lot of people are my heroes, simple people. A short time ago I worked with children and I thought it's a wonder. I worked in the hospital with children who had cancer and when they looked at me and played with me and there was one child with all these tubes who had a ball on his finger and looked so excited and it might live only two days but ...
Because every thing has two sides, you know. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Because every thing has two sides, you know. Of course, there is a good thing in Dropping Knowledge organisation, it has one symbol " copyleft" not "copyright" but "copyleft". Every person can use this, you know. Sometimes It's very funny because I have heard that there is a patent on song "Happy Birthday" and you must pay in order to sing this song. It's stupid and overdone. You cannot patent every word ot every thing. Some people misapply this. This is also clownery. Because people when they tackle a problem they always overact and overplay. You cannot patent every word and not all existing patents are useful to people. Certainly, when scientists, painters or poets create something new, they make much efforts but at the same time these people must waste their time on patenting although they could create some new ideas, pictures or poems. This is another question. Today, in the Internet Age, you can put every idea on the Internet so that people can see and get your message. For example, I founded such organisation as the “World Parliament of the Clowns” which gives us, clowns, immunity.
We should change our technology completely. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We should change our technology completely. If governments of our countries and chairmen of big corporate groups thought about what influence they had on the whole system and what they should do to bring the civilization on a new level of development. It doesn´t mean to boost military potential because doing so we would sit on top of a powder keg waiting to blow. It doesn´t mean to develop technology that uses much economic resources and fuel as well as contaminates air. It means to develop alternative environmentally safe technologies using solar, wind and water energy. All that lot of money that we disburse for so-called national defence policy and aggression towards other countries should be spent on keeping our civilization safe. In my opinion it´s possible to make our system, economic and technical development environmentally friendly.
It's difficult to say because I look at this [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It's difficult to say because I look at this problem from different sides, you know. I am a clown and I see both sides of this problem. When you stand on your hands you see problem utterly differently. Of course, the Internet is a very good thing but how many good things in the history did harm to civilization. Of course, contol is stronger now. But it is our decision to have the Internet or not. You mustn't use computer. OK, when you need it for your profession but you can prevent to put it in your sleeping room you can control this. You are powerful, you have a lot of possibilities to rule your livis yourselves. We make ourselves out to be victims but we are not victims. We are strong women and men. We can regulate our lives ourselves and decide how much we use the internet and how much control we need. A lot of people are so helpless they wish this control and wish that somebody rules them. But I think that more intellectual people could teach other people how to use these things in a right way and in the right situation. It could bring only good results.
Yes, it's true. It depends upon people [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes, it's true. It depends upon people themselves. I have domastic animals. I have three cats and two dogs at home. And I look at them and I let them run in the garden they run with me, they communicate wih me and they become more intelligent when they have connection with me. They like to play and walk with me. They are not overfed or lazy. They live a very good life. I live a very good life too because I like my work, I like what I do and I work on my mind and my body. And every person can do it, you know. It's your decision. Nobody say you mustn't lie and have only wish to use goods that bring us civilization. A lot of people have problems with health. It's crazy when you hear we have problem of diet and somewhere thousands of people die from hunger. But people decide themselves how much they eat. I don't have a lot of illnesses because illnesses stem from psyche, for instance, bulimia or something like this. It's a result of psychical illness and psychical illness is degradition because people don't have enough. It's illness here, in head. I read a lot of books, not serious such as "Organic" where I read that very small quantity of organic illnesses is not produced by mind and psyche. We create our illnesses ourselves. Every day we create illness eating not healthy food, drinking not healthy water and smoking. What we need is healthy mind.
We must do this and have a lot of such [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We must do this and have a lot of such communities. A lot of people, maybe, don´t know about this because mass media are more concentrated on some sensations, you know, such as how people die, how they are killed, drugs, life of famous stars, private life and so on. So we take the people away from problem because the problem is too difficult for us. Why is it difficult? Because we don´t want to move our brains. We all in these countries, we all think somebody must do it for us - this comfortable life and other things. We are user but we must create our happiness ourselves, you know. And there are a lot of people who create such communities in Amerika, Italy or India. They make this. I know this experience to create such community where people live and don´t depend on government. They grow vegetables, not genmanipulated, natural products. They use natural materials. They are working together for some fantastic life of their members without using this slavery. It´s a very good and very nice experience And we must show the public this good experience, you know, and not think it´s utopia or fantasy because it is created by people.
A lot of people are doing this, they are [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: A lot of people are doing this, they are working on this problem, you know. All depends upon ... It depends on ... It´s a global problem. But we cannot solve this problem without raising our awereness and thinking of global responsibility of each of us. Not thinking globally but egoistically - I have enough water and I can consume so much water how much I want, even more - we leave some people on the other end of the world without water, we leave them without clean water. Soon we would fight not for petroleum and energy resources but for water. We can live without fuel but we cannot live without water. Without water we can live only one day, two at most. That´s why it´s a global and important question. Fortunately, many people are thinking about this problem and the fact that we are sitting at this table of free voices answering this question and the fact that this question has been asked, all these facts are very important. The question has been asked and each person, who is sitting at this table or who is seeing and reading this information here as well as who is reading newspapers or news in internet, should think what it could do every day in order that we all would have a glass of clean water in some years.
A new technology is a potential danger. It [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: A new technology is a potential danger. It cannot be useful. One idea could be not right. People carry out experiments on other people. How is it? Maybe, in ten years new things made in genetic engineering could be a catastrophe for people. But you are not allowed to experiment with people. It is a danger now and in the future. Of course, the idea is to have more development. The idea must be well thought out. It must be matured. There are a lot of catastrophes in the world just because we don’t think that an idea could be not only useful but also harmful. For instance, nuclear power has destroyed millions of lives. It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use it but we must be careful with each information type and with each manipulation and especially with genetic engineering. Because each experiment even being progressive today must be tested by time. As you know medicines have been tested for a long time before people can buy and get them. And it’s right. It’s absolutely right. Because there were some medicines which seemed to be useful but finally turned out to be harmful, for example a sedative and anti-inflammatory medicament Contergan.
It`s only ... The people must change their [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It`s only ... The people must change their way of thinking
It´s an interesting question. Mass media and [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It´s an interesting question. Mass media and television make only what people like because it brings more money and more viewers. Most people like this. On the other hand, mass media create this mass mentality as a taste. One person protects another and we get a generetion of monsters that hasn´t own brains. They are only looking whether their products have been eaten. I always say my son you must read books, books written by Schiller, Goethe, Heine, Leo Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekhov, for example. Reading them you could find a recipe what person you could be. For example, the Bible. The Bible is a wonderful, fantastic book. The Koran is a fantastic book too. Kabbalah teachings are also fantastic. These books are old cultural books which were written by people using their own experience, experience of their souls. It´s very important. You must know about what you are speaking about. And when you read these books yourselves you work with your head and this is very good because you grow intellectually. If you are only watching TV you eat only the product produced by other people. Because people, maybe, read Tolstoy, Chekhov or another great writer and make a film on the basis of their works and we eat shit because they make and give us shit. We are shit-eaters.
We welcome this idea of genetically [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We welcome this idea of genetically engineered food or animals because we suppose that it could give us new potential and new foodstuffs. But we don´t use rationally the potential which we have today. We risk to change many things, inspite of the fact that it could be harmful for people, only because somebody has companies and is interested in earning another million or billion. Only some people are interested in it, but there is no necessity on the earth to do this. We could feed the whole population if the way in which food is shared among people were not wrong and disproportionate. There are some people who have hundreds of times, thousands of times more than they can actually consume. They possess everything and there are people who have nothing. The solution of this problem is based on the right distribution and not on production of some “fantastic” food. Every genetical manipulation of nature is not for nothing, it is not without consequences. People should think a lot before to take this incalculable risk. People should think who first of all profits by this manipulation and who really needs it.
Science is only an experiment. These are [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Science is only an experiment. These are ideas of different people who are good educated and narrow-orientated. Scientists are like children. They play because they have passion and interest in this theme. They work on it. I know a lot of scientists who are very fantastic people. And what is objectivity? It's only a human being - very intellectual, very intelligent, very professional but human being can make mistakes. Mistakes are not bad things, you know. People can make mistakes and in mistakes making mistakes they get experience what is possible to do and what not. And they as personalities have the right to do this. But other people mustn't sit and wait and say: You are absolutely right because you don't make mistakes. Why? Why? We make mistakes every day. Maybe, sometimes it's very healthy to make mistakes because you get experience. For example, clowns are not afraid of mistakes and not being perfect because every mistake opens a new level in their lives. We grow up in mistakes. We cannot say another people that they must be perfect because we ourselves are also not perfect.
Everything depends on little things. It [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Everything depends on little things. It depends on people´s awareness and actions. For example, using aerosol and much plastic... In India plastic bags are forbidden. Why? Because they contaminate the country and, on the contrary, in many European countries we continue to use them. Why? Because it brings money, it´s advertising. We don´t understand that producing much plastic we contaminate our planet in the way that we pollute air and water, we pollute the environment. Every day, every hour and every minute we contribute to climate change and global warming. I don´t mention enormous damage which large enterprises cause by water and air contamination. I don´t mention plenty of cars ... . That´s why each person must change its point of view whether it needs the car if there are only ten meter to the place where it goes to. Thus, we pollute the environment. As a result of our careless behavior we create such conditions when we suffocate on our own waste gas. And I would like to emphasize again that we must raise our awareness, we must change ourselves. And every minute we must think about what we are doing to reduce danger because it is a serious danger. We mustn´t be egoistical but we should take responsibility for all our actions. And that´s not only because we contaminate water where we live and think that there is enough, or masses of water. There is not enough water, there are some places on the earth, where people are sufferring because they don´t have it. On the one hand, we have to consider ourselves as small particles which can damage the whole system, on the other hand, we are particles which can be useful for this system and improve it and which do not only think that someone else would do this. We must do it ourselves!
The answer to this question is in the [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: The answer to this question is in the question itself. We, people of the developted countries, had to think about this question very seriously. Of course, all these things are connected with each other, that´s why we should think of energy distribution and development of new technology, of new system, where we could reduce fossil fuel use because using this fuel we contaminate air and water. We should think how to finance projects connected with development of new technologies, technologies of new energy sources, which are environmentally friendly such as solar, wind and water energy as well as many other energy sources. Modern technology and science are able to develop and use this energy. And that is a solution to this problem. We don´t have so much energy resources. The scientists of some countries have counted that by the end of 2020, energy resources would be exhausted. So we would be forced to find the solution of this problem. But using all economic and intellectual resources we would be able to solve this problem in a scientific way.
Architecture is an art. Surely, it must have [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Architecture is an art. Surely, it must have big big influence because it's a part of culture. We live in cities, in good cities with nice places and beautiful buildings. You think about the time when they were built and they are a symbol of power. You can accept this or not, but there are another places in the world where architecture serves politics, for example these skyscrapers which symbolise our modern time. Of course, architecture, builgings have become more comfortable or more useful for people living there. It's excellent. I call this architecture, product of people`s and artists` creativity. But there are another buildings like small cages for people. It's not architecture. These are just jails for people or prison cells looking like cardboard boxes. It's not architecture. Architecture is something wonderful.
I want to see the future as community of [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I want to see the future as community of free people - people having new consciousness and new understanding of their own part in the world; people who understand how much depends on us, on each of us; people who understand that we are only parts, small parts of our universe. We must care about our own health, moral health, sou`l's health, understanding health. We must help each other. We must help people who are near us as well as people who are far from us. It's the health of our planet. We must understand that the earth is not so big and every person should care about our planet. It's our home. We are world`s citizens now. It's time of totally globalization and we should understand that happiness and lives of other people depend upon each of us. Only together, growing up emotionally we could reach balanced state and our world wouldn't go down. Our world would move forward to a new level and this level we could reach if we grew up as people. Each of us must grow up, develop intellectually, mentally and then our soul grows up too. I see the wonderful future with people being happy and living in harmony ... and with smiles on their faces.
It´s a problem… The mass media provide [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It´s a problem… The mass media provide information and news but there are many pessimistic points of view. The mass media cause disorientation and people are less able to think. The aim of some mass media such as newspapers and television is to cause depression, and those magazines which are writing about .... They all are focusing on consumer´s desire without analyzing what the consumer really needs and how the consumer could conform to these increasing requirements. People experience change of mood, they are in a fever of excitement. The mass media cause change of people´s values, values of simple and tender life - when you are sitting on the seaside, watching plashing waves and you are stunned and happy by wondering this beauty. Programmes advertising products which people cannot afford, cause greed, dissatisfaction, discomfort and they change people´s values. People don´t want to be loved by others and to fall in love, they have only one desire to get more and more at any cost without thinking whether they need it or not.
Oh no, oh no, no. It's impossible. It's too [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Oh no, oh no, no. It's impossible. It's too much. It would be horrible. If I imagine I have a computer instead of my head and somebody can put buttons here or there to get information or some reaction. Human being is so unique, so beautiful in his or her differences. If there was this connection you could manipulate and we would be manipulated. Thousands of people could be manipulated. They don't need this. When people would be connected to computers they would sit and depend on information that they get. It's different information that you get from your grandmother and computer. It is totally different things because you get not only information about love but you must feel love. You must feel and know it. After that you have experience of love and if you only hear about this ... I was a young woman and I heard a lot about children and I said: Oh, I want to have a child because it's something wonderful. And when I became a young mother and bore a son and I understood it's a little bit other than I thought. It's a big big but beautiful problem. It's different and machine and human created by God are totally different things and it must be so.
We should try to manage our resources in the [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We should try to manage our resources in the way that every person has the right to education and every person has the right to exist - not only to exist but to live and to develop. Every person, every citizen in the world must have the right to development and we must give every person opportunity to develop itself and it requires our joint efforts. First of all we should think whether we need to continue developing military potential becuse it’s absurd. It’s a nonsense. If we don’t change our awareness and don’t reach the new level in our development we could never protect ourselves even having the best weapons in the world. The humankind could be saved by raising people’s consciousness and this means to develop, to develop intellectually and spiritually. We must give people a chance to develop and to be more perfect.
Because people are disconnected, very [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Because people are disconnected, very disconnected. It begins after our birth. When the child is born and parents have no time to grow up it they give it to... or it stays alone. People are disconnected, people have much emotions, this greed and this competition, you know. They see in another person an enemy, you know. But why don´t you try to make enemy to your friend? As in childhood You can return in your childhood because children believe, they believe people, they believe their mothers, they believe teachers and friends, you know. And sometimes they are fighting, but after that they become better, closer friends because they clear the situation and their positions. If people have an accident or unpleasant things in your life because life is very complicated they "close" themselves off, they have so much fear and they close themselves off. And I think people must open themselves, they must open out. Because there is love - love around you. And how much love you give so much love you receive back. It´s a law, it´s a law of light. And light is inside people. How much love or light you give you get more back, because you, you alone give your light to many people and a lot of people give it you back. It´s a principle of my life. I am very happy because, I am very happy because I get support from people´s good wishes to me. And I can work, I can do my job more positively and with more love.
Of course, with information. Information is [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Of course, with information. Information is a big power - with information and education. Now people can have the possibility to use the internet for their own account because the internet means information and people are not so stupid and using the internet they are connected with the whole world they can [become a new carriage of it]. Of course, the world isn't closed now and it's a big power. I think it is very useful for social and economic development. People get more and more information and they can use it. People get more and more information and they can use it. On the other hand, the Internet could promote development and spreading of some negative things and information. Knowledge is power and information could help us to increase our intellectual potentials. We could gain knowledge alone, without teacher’s help because in some villages, small towns or housing estates there might be not enough teachers. The Internet promotes education and it’s wonderful. But we have to learn how to use the the World Wide Web in order to access only useful things for us which don’t destroy human world and don’t cut us off from other people. In many industrial countries there are some diseases now when children communicate only with their computers losing contact with the real world and people. They are depressive because they live in the virtual world. This is the other side of the coin but nobody is protected from mistakes. Generally, Internet and Computer are positive things which promote development.
I have met many people lately and I have [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I have met many people lately and I have thought a lot. I have read a lot of books. And I came across a special tree, tree of life in one of these books, in Kabbalah. Kabbalah is a tree of life with wonderful flowers and leaves and these flowers and leaves are people. Our civilization is a big big tree. We mustn't lose our connection with the earth because it gives us food and water. Our "mother-earth" gives us everything what we need for life and being happy. We must only use this but use this in a right way. We mustn't cut the bough where we are sitting [...] because we destroy our own tree. Sometimes I work very active in my shows because I think it's my path. It makes people happy even for a few minutes or, maybe, for one hour. But people are happy they forget their problems and learn something from me. I have met many people lately and I have thought a lot. I have read a lot of books. And I came across a special tree, tree of life in one of these books, in Kabbalah. Kabbalah is a tree of life with wonderful flowers and leaves and these flowers and leaves are people. Our civilization is a big big tree. We mustn't lose our connection with the earth because it gives us food and water. Our "mother-earth" gives us everything what we need for life and being happy. We must only use this but use this in a right way. Don't cut the bough where we are sitting [...]because you destroy your own tree. Sometimes I work very active in my shows because I think it's my path. It makes people happy even for a few minutes or, maybe, for one hour. But people are happy they forget their problems and learn something from me because clown is like a mirror for people. They see themselves and laugh about themselves. They are not being criticised. If I as a clown criticise people I want only to show people themselves. They learn, they change.
This question is like question 71. I don't [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This question is like question 71. I don't watch television a lot. I don't need it because my life is so rich because I contact with people. And this project "Dropping Knowledge" is the possibility to meet so many dífferent people. I am working with the World Wisdom Council and it's so fantastic because every time when I meet these people and speak with them it seems to me as if I am drinking "alive" water. I get so much energy and new ideas for my work. I continue my work and I do my work and I bring people positive energy and laughing. I don't read many magazines - social magazines or yellow press - only if I go to the doctor. Every time, when I sit in anteroom and wait for gynaecologist I read these newspapers and it makes me aggressive because we have a lot of bad instincts. Of course, there are some good magazines that present objective points of view or give information about other countries, about culture of other countries. But most of magazines make us aggressive, they are primitive. You must have this, you must have that. OK, but it is your decesion whether to read this magazine or not. You don´t need to sit the whole time in the anteroom of gynaecologist and read these papers. We have so many possibilities, we have so many fantastic books, we have so good artists, we have good films, really good films. I am from Russia and we have fantastic culture, theatre culture and cinema culture.We have films which develop and touch our soul without only saying you must have this or that. We, people, don't need anythíng. We need only ourselves, we need love, we need to be loved and we need to learn how to love. It's very, very difficult I learn it every day. I try to learn it every day. I don't try enough, I cannot say I grow up enough.
Yes, of course. Every person can be [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Yes, of course. Every person can be perceptive, it must be perceptive. Every person have to develop this perception, otherwise our civilization will die out. Because every person on the earth is a part of nature, it´s an element of this world , it´s an atom in this world. It´s a small but very important particle. Every person is an important particle of this life. And every of these particles has to feel responsibility for events in the world, because, if this particle is badly injured, its physical and emotional health is harmed and the source of energy , the source of good energy; is closed , it means that the whole system is suffering. It ´s in the same way as in some mechanism. If there a small bulb, a small cathode or a small chip is damaged the whole system breaks down.We have a lot of damaged cells. I spoke with professor Albert Popp, he has a very neat theory. His theory is very important and interesting: Every person consists of light. Every person consists not of water but of light. Albert Popp has constructed machines which can help to diagnose diseases. The damaged cells don´t let the light through. And in the same way we can find out dark holes and died cells in our society and in our system. Our negative energy and our negative point of view don´t give the light the opportunity to spread and to develop constructively. We interrupt this chain. And if each of us understood that this fact is very important, we would win as civilization.
It´s not so. It´s not hundred percent right. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It´s not so. It´s not hundred percent right. Of course, there are countries where you cannot get one glass of pure water. We must fight for this that all people have a right to the glass of pure water. Because there is nothing more beautiful than to have the possibility to drink one glass of pure water. It´s a wonder, it´s a wonder of Creator. But people must have a feeling that they are responsible for this clean water towards our children. In a short space of time we get so many problems. And it wouldn´t be anywhere in Afrika but at our table. We would go in the shop and we wouldn´t have enough money to buy one glass of simply clean water, you know. There would be bottles with polluted water, plastic rest, with chemicals inside, you know. I grew up in Siberia, in the city ... It´s a global problem for all people what we can do in order to get people what we can do in order to get a glass of clean water in 10-20 years one glass of clean water. Now we must speak about this problem in newspapers and fight for this and make our world more sustainable to have clean water and clean air.
We can learn a lot from African people - [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We can learn a lot from African people - courage, dignity and optimism. African culture is fantastic. It´s so different. It´s so coloured. It´s so optimistic. People there live under difficult circumstances. They must survive. They must think about the next day, food and a glass of clean water. But they live on and they are happy. I was in Afrika and I saw a lot of happy people and happy children. Of course, they are very poor. But what does it mean "to be poor"? How much do you need not to feel poor? You can be poor even having all material comforts, because someone has more than you do. You may have one million, two million but there is somebody who has one trillion, you know. And you are poor. Richness of your soul, cultural riches, the capacity to be satisfied and happy in every life situation - this means a real richness. It´s the possibility to give everyone such presents as your smile and your love. This means richness. And Africa can it. When I see African people - musicians, artists or simple people - who dance and have so much positive energy. Now there is in Germany such show as "Africa, Africa" which includes a lot of nationalities from Africa and presents the whole world of African culture. I think it was a good idea of Andre Heller to make this show.
We must have this balance. Differences, [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We must have this balance. Differences, varieties are very important. When you take a stone such as diamond, and you polish it, it becomes more and more beautiful, because this diamond has a lot of facets. And when it has million facets, it´s shining. It´s exactly so with our culture. When it has so many facets and these facets reflect light, a wonderful rainbow appears, and it´s great. We must pay attention to each culture because it is a movement of soul. Culture means tradition, religious tradition, spirit´s tradition. It´s our richness. People understand this need of culture and even in some regimes where politicians and governments try to make all people look the same, for example in Korea. In Russia we had the same clothes some years ago. Even there people try to keep their individuality, because individuality is very important. It´s a richness for the whole world - these differences between cultures and emotions.
I am just doing this. It´s a "Dropping [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I am just doing this. It´s a "Dropping Knowledge" project. We have a very fantastic experience. This round table has brought people together and people can have a dialogue and get answers to their questions. The answers are different because each question is more than one answer. And it would be wrong to say: I am right or I am not right, you know. But these answers of these fantastic 120 participants ... People read information on internet pages or look television because this is, indeed, a very good and fantastic work. You can carry on a dialogue with me, with him, with her... with everyone and with yourselves and you can ask yourselves your questions. It´s like to open the door for new knowledges. It´s a fantastic start. It´s only start. This project takes place for the first time. And I think this project would be continued with another people, in another places and in another countries. We try to find answers and think about questions.
There are many unreported stories. There are [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: There are many unreported stories. There are many important stories about corruption and that many countries and political systems are utterly corrupt. But most important unpublished and unreported story by our mass media is the story that human beings are unique creatures and they have to learn how to use their own strengths. This is an unreported story because a lot of political and other powers are afraid of these human strengths. That’s why in mass media there are so many dejected, horrific and awful stories. When a snake hypnotises a rabbit, the rabbit is awestruck and then it is easier for the snake to eat it in this petrified state. I think there are many scandalous stories, but some of these scandalous stories are unveiled. For instance, the film of the famous American director Brian Levant. Many stories are very important but most important story, it is a positive story, is the story that despite disastrous general and environmental situation in the world the most important thing is the state of our moral principles, the level of our morality. Our moral principles are in bad state because there are a lot of people who are not interested in using this energy, this potential and most important human energy. Everything else, all other stories provoke more or less fear, dread and petrifaction.
Oh, it's so simple. People have different [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Oh, it's so simple. People have different points of view. It is like in detective story. When some people stand in different places before one building they have different views from their places. And if I stand behind the operator who films I see his back and I cannot see anything what it's in front of him. I can say the operator is tall but I cannot see his face. And people who stand in front of him have another information. Both pieces of information about this man are right, these are only different views. And clowns have also different points of view. People are sometimes like animals, they have only one perspective. But you cannot look at life only from one side and say I am right. You must "see around". You must have very wide panorama over things. Only after that you can say maybe I am right. There are a lot of dogmas and truths and people believe in them, it's okay. Now we are laughing about some things, you know. But at that time it was true, it was a reality. For example, such suggestion that the world rested upon elephants , it was true and Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for his ideas because people didn't believe in what he said, they said it was a lie.
Wisdom and love! Wisdom and love! Only this!
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Wisdom and love! Wisdom and love! Only this!
We are success-orientated, you know, because [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We are success-orientated, you know, because we are running after these goods which mass media propose us. We don't decide ourselves. We live with brains or information of another people. People cannot find peace inside themselves. If people achieved peace inside themselves they would not run. Every moment of life given us by the Creator is very precious and valuable and it's your decision whether you use this moment for love, for education or for conacts with other people. It's your decision. You mustn't run after illusions and pictures created by other people. Every human being is programmed to have success and in order to reach this result he or she try to get more and more. It's good so, you know. One philosopher, old Greek philosopher said: The more I know, the more I know I don't know. It means I don't know so many things. And the same thing is with success. It is like a carrot putting in front of donkey's nose and the donkey is running after it all the time. Don't be donkey! Don't run after carrots! You can make your own decisions. And instead of running after things or money which you don't need, maybe, read a book, look how your child grows up, work in your garden and enjoy beautiful flowers or do something useful for another people. After that you would be satisfied and you would find peace inside yourselves.
We spend so much money on military forces - [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We spend so much money on military forces - billions, billions of dollars. And if we gave this money scientists they could produce a new kind of energy - solar energy, water energy, a new pure energy which doesn't pollute air and water. We could use all these scientifical good ideas in order to make our life more beautiful. Maybe, our civilization were at a higher level now. There are a lot of people with big potential who haven't possibilities because they are very poor. They have no possibilities in education they have possibilities in nothing and they have emotional, mental and intellectual potential. They cannot use these positive things. People are very creative. I was in India and I saw simple people. They are miracle workers. There is no machine which could work as they do. It's impossible to produce tee-shirts in India because they make every tee-shirt differently, because they are so creative and they cannot make the same tee-shirt. And other countries... Every nation has its very positive sides. And if we know them we can use these positive sides - intellectual, emotional sides and cultural life of each nation. I think it's politics, political play. We spend so much money we could feed...
Everybody is responsible. Each person who [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Everybody is responsible. Each person who has more power to concentrate the world´s natural resources in its own hands, you know. But why don´t we ask the question about our own responsibility? Because all concerns or all states, these are only people, you know. You can change the situation when other people hear your voice and you think to have the right to make decisions how we use these resources. It seems to be absurd, a little bit. Because each person is thinking: I cannot do anything! But it can, it´s really so. Now the natural resources are concentrated in the hands of few concerns, some big concerns, you know, and we say, ah, they are responsible. Why are we thinking that some other person must think about us? A lot of people enjoy this because they think: I mustn´t think, I mustn´t move, I cannot change anything. Some other must think. It´s easier to criticize, to criticize Bush or Putin or others, you know, and not to go your own way and only to say I am not responsible and I am good because I am not responsible. But you aren´t good because you do nothing. But giving your voice you make people in the government to make the right decision. It depends on us.
Keep being yourselves! The precious thing is [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Keep being yourselves! The precious thing is your nationality. I have never stopped being Russian. I was born in Siberia. It's a very wonderful country with very wonderful people. Of course, I meet in each part of the world wonderful people but I grew up in a clean climate. There were no bacteria or microbes because sometimes the temperature was 60 degrees Celsius below zero. Such circumstances for life are very tough but it's very good because we have "clean", decent people. You alone cannot survive there you needs friends, not wrong friends, who have smiles on their faces and talk about you behind your back or have a knife. No, those people have no chance there because if the whole community, all people see you are wrong they drive you away or influence you. Such circumstances create and form you and you cannot be bad. You must be good and you must become better because without being good you cannot live there because people cannot live alone. And it is in our power to create and form people. Of course, in different periods of life people can make mistakes. I am a clown and clowns are not afraid of making mistakes. We make mistakes but we try to profit from our mistakes. We make a lot of mistakes in our life. And now it's a time to change. Your individuality is very valuable and you have to keep it.
It's so complicated question. It's very [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It's so complicated question. It's very dangerous to give a wrong answer to this question.´There are not so many cases where we need genetic engineering. Certainly, for treating some diseases this science is very interesting and useful. But specialists must use genetic engineering only in some finely selected cases. We must always think of consequences and what result it could have. We must think not only of positive but also negative sides. Genetic engineering is to be used in a narrow and local way and only in order to correct some defects. Of course, we use genetic engineering treating cells in order to correct some health defects, heart diseases and imperfections of organs. But all these cases are exceptional. It’s a question of careful and selective choice.
We should develop our ability to think and [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: We should develop our ability to think and expand our knowledge. We should learn and develop our mental and intellectual abilities. Then we would be able to differ whether it is truth or lie. Even when I was a small girl, when I was five years old ... We all see, we all possess truth inside of us. This truth is inherent in our human nature, it´s a quality given us by God. And if we faithfully ask ourselves whether it is truth or not – not only to salve our conscience – we should get the true answer. Because the true answer is inherent in our human nature. And everything, everything what occurs outside ... There are many forces and instruments which can change our values and internally destabilise us because human values are being changed. But we must respect ourselves and perceive ourselves as creatures of God who are able to decide, to find answers to all questions and to avoid seducement. If somebody forces you to think or to do something and you are fully obedient – you follow any fanatic leader, hysterical propaganda or fashion trends without using your intuition and mind as well as without measuring the situation with such criteria as goodness and honesty – then you are always victim of these influences.
The rule number one: Never do other people, [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: The rule number one: Never do other people, nature and animals things that you don't want to happen to you. This is the first rule because it's a golden rule and this rule is existing in all religions. You must learn to love because love opens eyes and opens soul and you cannot do anything wrong to other people. Another rule is you must have respect for yourselves and for your intuition because all people inside are created perfectly, every person. You must only ask yourselves whether you are right doing to other people things that you do - is it useful what I do for other people, whether these are good or bad things, you know. And we must learn to learn. We must open our eyes and learn to see, learn to feel, learn to smell, learn to taste and learn to understand and learn to be free. And if you are free you learn to work alone, you know, you don't need a lot of sticks. For instance, Salvador Dali painted a lot of pictures with sticks. When you learn and know yourselves you don't need these sticks.
This is a theme of beauty. Beauty saves life [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: This is a theme of beauty. Beauty saves life - beauty of nature, landscape, painting or beauty of people, their portraits. What we feel from generation to generation looking at Mona Lisa (Gioconda)of Leonardo da Vinci - it's a secret of life. This secret is everywhere in the arts, in the architecture and in the painting. It's in the music. It's in the classical music. It's in the dance, songs. This all is a culture. I always think people come and look at artists, pictures, sculptures or architecture and they see how great a human being is and it is a human being who has created all these things. When I am standing in Cologne Cathedral I think: Oh my God, people have built this Cathedral. They are like creators, they have created it. How much power does the Creator give us to create this beauty? With help of painting we can show other people how beautiful the life is, or with help of culture. When people are singing, for example, when Chinese women are singing you understand what they are singing about without understanding the language because they are singing with feelings and soul. It's fantastic. I am working in cultural sector. I like theatre very much and when you go to the theatre and see very good things you have a catharsis (it is a form of emotional cleansing).
It's love. I learn love. When I was a child [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It's love. I learn love. When I was a child I didn't get enough love. These were circumstances, circumstances of life. And now I understand a lot of things. I must learn that people lose their human insticts. We mustn't hunt now. We lose our ability to run very quickly. We lose our sharpness because we don't need to bite somebody's neck anymore and we lose our contact with nature, we lose our contact with the Creator. We lose these abilities. As for me, I want to gain something, I want to learn myself. I want to give others, children, for instance, possibility to learn. I work much with children because they are able to smile and laugh. People who laugh cannot kill. You have never seen people being happy and falling in love and killing. It's impossible. I am working 35 years as a clown and I hope I bring people smiles, laugh and love and they give me all this back.
I think, it is not a myth. We have a lot of [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think, it is not a myth. We have a lot of myths but every generation read another myths. Look, you read the Bible, the Koran or Kabbalah teachings. In the last time I open ... People must read these books again and again not only one time. How do we read? Now we have habits of "fast food". We eat very quickly. We make everything very quickly. We read books very quickly, even Tolstoy or Dostoevsky. For example, "Anna Karenina" by Leo Tolstoy. The plot of this novel is simple - one woman falls in love with a young man and at the end of the novel she commits suicide by throwing herself in the path of a train. You know the plot but you don't know anything about the book. It is full of love and humanity. Books where fighting spirit is present are books which create and form points of view. These books are fantastic. We must try to understand what the author wants us to say with his religion. Recently I open a book about Kabbalah and I was surprised this book is a science about people, about forces in ourselves, in our soul. It is like clean water that we always need and we need to read good books. Maybe, we need to read the same book two or four times in our life because we open something new, new points of view and we develop ourselves.[...] And when we try to find goodness we find it.
Now a lot of scientists are thinking about [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: Now a lot of scientists are thinking about this problem ... And there are a lot of new ideas about energy because it`s a question number one in the whole world and we have to find possibilities to do this. I hope in the next future we would be able to use this kind of energy more and more. Many scientists and many organisations have already begun to use this energy, this clean energy. And from my point of view we all should to do this in the near future.
People believe their family. When their [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: People believe their family. When their child is born, it believes its mother, because the mother is the person it can trust, and when it feel itself worse it goes to her and she trusts it. You know, it believes this because when it is very small it has no own experience. It cannot use its brain, its experience. But today children grow up, grow up from family. They open door from their house and go to look the world. Today they study a great deal, they see a lot and reach the age when they are responsable for themselves. They can use all experience they have in life. You know all people on the earth are like a child. And now we are growing up, we are "growing up" civilisation. We must go and open the door of our small house, open and look our world inside. I told and many people told our earth is so small and we are responsable for what we are doing this earth. It´s connected, of course, it is important to your own home but you must think to help your own country, your own community, our own home to have a better life. But you must think it´s time to think globally. You must now, today, think about all persons, about all people. Without doing that we cannot overlive, we have no future. It´s time to grow up for people.
You mustn´t eat this food, you know. Nobody [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: You mustn´t eat this food, you know. Nobody says you must eat this food. You must not go to McDonald. You can go and work on the field and produce your own food, because you have two hands and brains. I think why people give responsibility for all to another people. You can decide! It´s funny but with your decision you can make politics. When you don´t buy bad products, there wouln´t be any factory which produces such products. But people buy these products and they influence all these things. You must only think that all depends on you. You are a part of the global system and your taste, your brains and your decisions are very, very important. There are a lot of people in all countries, for example in America, where you can buy all but some people don´t buy ecologically wrong and genmanipulated products, you know. They have made their choice. And if one product is not being bought it wouldn´t be produced.
God has no religion. Religions are made by [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: God has no religion. Religions are made by people. The Creator give us a big, big present and a lot of information. We are small. We all are copies of God. Every person is God. We have God inside ourselves. We must only take a look inside ourselves and then we can get all information to our questions. And religion? I am very interested in books and I read such books as the Koran or the Bible or Kabbalah teachíngs or another teachings of great masters, for instance, Confucius. You get a lot of information not only about history but also about the way people go, about their experiences. We get life from the Creator as a present and we can use knowledge that he gives us. I would like to repeat that people have no differences, they all are the same. Fundamentalism and fanaticism are products of ill people's mentality. We all are the same and it's a big crime to destroy people's lives or to deform other people because we have no right for this. Every human being is unique and you cannot give him or her more or take him or her something away by reason that you think he or her is not perfect. Human being cannot be more perfect as he or she is. You must give people the key to themselves, the possibility to open their own souls and look inside and after that we get a fantastic result.
I´m an artist and I know a lot of people. [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I´m an artist and I know a lot of people. And each person is an artist. It needs only an opportunity to open itself. And artists make cities not different from each other with architecture, with cultural life, with pictures and so on. These are differences and these differences come through times. It´s a big cultural treasure. Today we go to museums and see these Greek sculptures or beautiful paintings of old masters and they inspire a lot of new artists and new generations. We can protect cities from sameness with our creativity. It gives people the posibility to show their own creativity. And it could be a wonderful, fantastic result. I am working with children and I give them possibility to explain me some things. I learn a lot of things from these children, even from children, their totally natural fantastic points of view for simple things. I learn also from young people. [...]
I have never had this question in my head. I [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I have never had this question in my head. I was in a lot of countries, different countries: Japan, America, Africa, Thailand or another countries. I know people have different appearance, different colour of hair, or different colour of eyes, or different colour of nose and I ask myself: What is it? I am red, white or black because I have these freckles - who I am? It´s only clothes. I put them on and I take them off. And after this performance I perform in my life somewhere else and I take these clothes off and I am an another person. People are what they are inside - your brain, your consciousness, your soul, your point of view - these things are important. And another things are not important. People have a pain it doesn´t mean because of the colour of their skin because everybody has blood, you know. And the children have different colour of eyes but it´s nice, it´s a wonder. The children get love, they gain respect, they get warmth. And it is the same in China, Japan, India or America. Of course, they have different nationalities, different religions but these are like clothes too. OK, I have these clothes and I feel myself in these clothes more comfortable. For me it´s appreciable. I love my motherland but I understand I am a cosmopolitan and I am a global person because I know we all are the same. We are holy people all.
I think young people and children must know [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think young people and children must know classical literature. There are a lot of wonderful books of wonderful writers and artists. Of course, there is no book with the recipe or formula of life. But there are books that crystallize and include all cultures, for example, historical epic or such books like the Bible, the Koran, Kabbalah teachíngs and other books that include the whole history of our civilization. I grew up in Russian culture. We have wonderful writers and they always have courage to write about their own understanding of the world they were not afraid of showing their souls and circumstances in what people live. I read these books again and again because when you grow up your understanding of these books change. And today there are a lot of wonderful books too which show us some ideas or arouse our curiosity and stimulate our wish to fight, you know. It's very, very interesting. People should read very good books ans we have them.
I see the Internet as a positive global [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I see the Internet as a positive global informational tool. Today it is impossible to live how we lived thirty years ago. I was in North Korea. People there have one regime which prescribes them how to live. And if people grow up in this system they know only this. They follow rules of party or political regime. They have no other possibilities. Now we have computers and with only one click we know what occurs in the whole world. We can get and see news and we can get more information. We are more educated. And it's a big progress. The Internet does a good job. But we must understand that this all the Internet, computers are made for people, these machines are working for people and not people for machines. People mustn't be a part, a small part of this machine because people with their spiritual potential are much much better than a perfect machine, even no having so much information. People mustn't forget this. We couldn't replace one human life by a beautiful and the best machine in the world. These are too different things.
I think, there could not be so many large [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: I think, there could not be so many large cities. Surely, some large metrpolises and big cities would remain. But I consider that it would be better for people and for the entire civilization to return into the natural world and get back to nature. Because people who have contact with nature and who see how the grass grows and the animals live..... There are a lot of children in our country who don´t know that the cow gives us milk. They don´t know it. How could the human feels responsibility for all creatures on the earth if he doesn´t understand their functions, if he doesn´t know .... In Germany there are farms for little children where they could come to and see geese, ducks, dogs and horses. If human is alienated from nature ... , and in big cities our children grow up playing on computer or playing tamogotchi (degital pet) how it was 20 years ago. But they feel nothing if this degital pet die. Its death leaves them cold. If children don´t learn and undrestand that hurting an animal is bad and it could be painful... How could we get fully-fledged adults? How could we get persons who are thinking of their connection with nature? I think that the most cities would have village´s character bringing people back to nature. It would be ideal. It would be optimal because people could produce standard and healthy food and be close to nature. It would be wonderful, because the urbanization process couldn´t continue eternally, it´s just impossible.
It´s a little bit racist question. The thing [...]
Antoschka - Ekaterina Moshaeva: It´s a little bit racist question. The thing that bothers me is that in Germany every family has two cars, hasn´t it? It´s the same thing in America. Chinese people want to have a car. It can be ... Everybody understands it can be a big catastrophe because it is not only about China but about India and another countries where million, million people live. But why I don´t begin from myself, "my own garden"? Why I don´t think about why I am driving the car, why I use the car, why I am not going by bus, why I am not going by tram, why not? For what do I need so many things that use so much energy? Why do I take a bath instead of taking a shower? Why do I leave the tap running when I am brushing my teeth? For this action which takes only three minutes I use, maybe, two hundred liter water! At the same time people in the other part of the world have no water and they must go three, five or ten kilmeter to bring some dirty water. Why? You know ... This is a question! Why are we doing this and what can it be?!
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